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Old 12-24-2008, 11:39 AM   #11
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Re: Edmunds Inside Line:Comparison Test: 2009 Audi A4 vs. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C350

In Europe the engine has 292 hp, only the 335 is more powefull. But I am with Just_Me, Mercedes must incorporate the 315 hp 350 engine featured on the SL to the rest of the line up (C,E, S CLS, CLE).

I wonder when the hell are they going to make that.
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Old 12-24-2008, 01:43 PM   #12
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Re: Edmunds Inside Line:Comparison Test: 2009 Audi A4 vs. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C350

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In Europe the engine has 292 hp, only the 335 is more powefull. But I am with Just_Me, Mercedes must incorporate the 315 hp 350 engine featured on the SL to the rest of the line up (C,E, S CLS, CLE).

I wonder when the hell are they going to make that.
That's the '350 CGI engine that has 292-horsepower. The regular '350 has 272-horsepower. In the refreshed SL and SLK models the '350 has over 300-horsepower. Why this engine is not yet in the C-Class is beyond me.
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:25 PM   #13
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Re: Edmunds Inside Line:Comparison Test: 2009 Audi A4 vs. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C350

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I hate tests where a car wins over the other because the standard equipment is better, and the car becomes cheaper because of that.
I sometimes think that when a car needs all these extra's, they're hiding the fact that the car itself is a bit less good.


Not to be bias but I totally agree with that, great point!
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Old 12-24-2008, 04:22 PM   #14
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Re: Edmunds Inside Line:Comparison Test: 2009 Audi A4 vs. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C350

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Also, paddle shifters are available for the C350 if you order the sport package, I believe.
This is the sports package, I believe.
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Old 12-24-2008, 04:34 PM   #15
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Re: Edmunds Inside Line:Comparison Test: 2009 Audi A4 vs. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C350

I think standard equipment is relevant. One thing I hate about german cars are that you have to pay a lot of cash to get the equipment you want. Japanese carmakers are much better, they come with much more standard equipment than the germans does.
This is something both BMW and Mercedes can learn from other carmakers. Offer a better value and more standard equipment. Unfortuanly its the extra options the german carmakers earn their money on.
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Re: Edmunds Inside Line:Comparison Test: 2009 Audi A4 vs. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C350

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I think standard equipment is relevant. One thing I hate about german cars are that you have to pay a lot of cash to get the equipment you want. Japanese carmakers are much better, they come with much more standard equipment than the germans does.
This is something both BMW and Mercedes can learn from other carmakers. Offer a better value and more standard equipment. Unfortuanly its the extra options the german carmakers earn their money on.
Well I think it has to do more with making a name for yourself first which means you have to suck up to the customers more at the beginning until you get the reputation going which is exactly what Lexus is trying to do in Europe right now and have successfully done so in USA.
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Re: Edmunds Inside Line:Comparison Test: 2009 Audi A4 vs. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C350

Both are amazing car. The C is the most beautiful Benz out there right now. Actually I would have a hard time choosing between these two. If it would be A5/S5, I'd take one over these any day. The A4 has somthing that doesn't say "wow" for me...
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Apparently it is still faster than the Audi A4 and Cadillac CTS with the "old" 268-hp engine. The 7Gtronic helps a lot, like they said in the article (and less weight).
True, but I'm always thinking 300hp, that is the standard in this class now.

Mercedes' V6s are all over the map, 268hp, 292hp, 305hp, 315hp, etc. Ridiculous IMO.

I get why the SLK350 version hasn't been put into the C-Class, its a higher revving unit, which MB might not feel is right for a sedan. Just a guess.

Not sure how the SL350's version arrives at its 315hp.


What is needed is a DI, 320hp version for everything wearing a "350" badge, IMO.


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Re: Edmunds Inside Line:Comparison Test: 2009 Audi A4 vs. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C350

^^honestly though, as much as most of us would agree that the C350 should be over 300hp mark, it still isn't an issue for the average car buyer. Besides a car guy, I don't think the average person looking at the C will be like "What? Not 300 or more hp? I'm leaving right now!" Not going to happen. Sure, the C will get the new engines after the FL, but besides us, it's not really necessary.
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This is the sports package, I believe.
Must be a market thingy then. I am pretty sure that in Europe a C-Class with Sport Package will come with steering wheel button shifters.
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