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View Poll Results: Which do you dislike?
Acura 26 19.70%
Audi 11 8.33%
BMW 2 1.52%
Cadillac 28 21.21%
Infiniti 6 4.55%
Jaguar 6 4.55%
Lexus 47 35.61%
Mercedes-Benz 4 3.03%
Porsche 2 1.52%
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Old 08-18-2008, 03:40 AM   #1
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Most Disliked Luxury Brand

Which brand do you dislike the most? For whatever reason...

Acura
Audi
BMW
Cadillac
Infiniti
Jaguar
Lexus
Mercedes-Benz
Porsche


(Did not include Ferrari, Lambo, Aston, Rolls Royce, Bentley etc... since they just dont seem to be in the same category as these, maybe its the lack of SUV)
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Old 08-18-2008, 03:47 AM   #2
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Mercedes-Benz! They're nothing compared to the almighty Lexus! It took Mercedes over 100 years to get where they are but Lexus did it in 20 years!






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Lexus.

Well I don't like them for 2 main reasons, they're so unoriginal and secondly their most ardent fans (not our Bruce though) are pretty much clueless about cars in general. I really can't stand that. This mainly applies to other boards like Edmunds and AutoSpies.

Interesting there is 1 vote for Acura.

I think we know which way this poll is going to go, Lexus by a landslide.


Infiniti is my favorite of the non-European brands. Love the G37 Coupe.


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Lexus if I had to "hate" one of them. Hate is such a strong word though.

Well I don't like them for 2 main reasons, they're so unoriginal and secondly their most ardent fans (not our Bruce though) are pretty much clueless about cars in general. I really can't stand that. This mainly applies to other boards like Edmunds and AutoSpies.

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And their cars are so overrated and not as well balanced as those of their competitors.

Plus they tend to release so much "false marketing" with how their hybrids are green cars and fuel efficient (and when that didn't work they're all of a sudden performance cars...) and how they're the first to come out with this and that for the sake of ass-kissing clueless people with money.

I have no problems with Acura or Infiniti, mostly because their fans aren't as snobby or brainwashed as most Lexus fans I know. Furthermore Acura and Infiniti tend to do their own thing while Lexus tries to be so European.
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re: Most Disliked Luxury Brand

I think people are going to confuse their dislike for fanboys and customers of certain brands for the brand it self. Why would anyone hate a brand? They all have something to offer - yes, even Lexus! It might not offer what you are looking for, but that is hardly grounds to hate them.

For me, with the exception of Porsche, BMW and couple of Audis (pretty much in that order), no one else in that list offers anything that I really care for, but that doesn't make me hate them.
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I love BMW so much that I hate BMW.
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I don't hate any of them...................................
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I think people are going to confuse their dislike for fanboys and customers of certain brands for the brand it self. Why would anyone hate a brand? They all have something to offer - yes, even Lexus! It might not offer what you are looking for, but that is hardly grounds to hate them.
You know how in the old days people hated a brand because of the people who drove them? Mercedes and BMW are good examples. Some people, especially those who couldn't afford them, became envious of the people who drove them and resorted to bad-mouthing both owners and car or keying the car or ramming their door into the car at a supermarket parking lot etc.

It's the same with Lexus in my case. I dislike most of their fans because of all that BS they claim about other brands. THE FANS OF THIS BRAND MAKE ME DISLIKE THE BRAND. A few days ago I was watching a thread about the new E-Class on ClubLexus. Many members there complained about the analog clock in the E-Class dashboard to the left of the speedometer citing that digital clocks are so much better. Well, maybe a digital clock looks good in that boring and overrated GS interior, but an analog clock is a Mercedes tradition first of all and second, most European luxury cars still have analog clocks as it simply looks classier and more stately (and sporty too in some cases). In the minds of those Lexus fanatics, it's "old-fashioned / outdated / useless / gimmicky" because Lexus of course is the leader and innovator and everything that Lexus does is automatically the benchmark (sarcasm intended).

Sure, there are some unbiased and objective Lexus fans out there that truly like Lexus but also respect other brands. Our very own Bruce is one of those people for example. RESPECT is the word I am looking for here. I dislike Lexus, but I also respect them because through them I know that the German brands got a wake-up-call and improved their offerings.


My dislike for Lexus also comes from the fact that people give them way too much credit. Credit for what? Without Toyotas financial assistance Lexus would be a nobody. Lexus didn't have to survive two world wars and start from scratch like BMW and Mercedes (after WW2) for example. I always like to put it this way.

BMW and Mercedes are the kids that went to school and studied hard to get where they are in life. Lexus is the kid that came late to school and copied the homework from BMW and Mercedes to get where it is in life.

Get my analogy? Makes sense IMO.

Furthermore, what really pisses me off are those lame consumer prestige surveys where Porsche is ranked first and Lexus second before Mercedes and BMW. Lexus ahead of Mercedes and BMW? BMW and Mercedes have history, heritage, motorsport heritage, innovation, safety innovation, global appeal and classic cars - and Lexus, which has none of those things, ranks ahead of them? Huh?

Obviously the masses care about the final product and best value, but that doesn't make Lexus a prestigeous luxury brand in my opinion a la BMW or MB. Heritage and history define the prestige factor of a brand in most cases, especially in the luxury car sector. To me, a Lexus will always be a Toyota in disguise. I can still give credit where credit is due though. They are great cars for good value but they're far from perfect or as balanced as their European rivals.
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I don't hate any of them,but I DO not want to see lexus selling many cars.
just me the M3 in your avatar looks like a compressed new 7er lol.
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