^yeah.. F01 is a stunner belive me?
what is that..we can see the car..the pictures are out
we dont need to belive you..

You don't have to.

I wasn't addressing you at all.



(I'll add "to all but The Artist" text next time, ok?)

Same was said for the LS when it came out.A new car will always have the spotlight for a few months.

It will take more than looking modern(IRL the S-Class is a very imposing and good looking car,i see one in white everyday.) to steal the crown from the S-class.

PS:Why is the 8-speed auto not standard on all 7's ?I believe the X-Drive 50i has it,so why doesn't the 750i ?

agreed eni i think some off what you say is wierd.yes you seem to love bmw and great for you butafter seeing the 7 pics and the deatils off the car can you be honest now and tell us where is the windoows and dos crap i dont see it as for interiro the dos is the new 7 lol exteriro i prefer the s in front and rear the 7 side is better and as for tech yes obviously the 7er is ahead uts almost 3 years newer but no windows dos here infact teh 7 should have had more innovative stuff i mean a 6 speed gearbox no presafe thats poor

What crown? Best-selling-luxury-sedan crown?

That will never happen. S-class is an icon, and I guess it will remain sales & image leader in the segment forever. Just like eg. the 3er in it's segment.

The crown of being most comfortable & cozy yet still dynamic luxury sedan? That's S-class domain as well.


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But in the "modern & trendy alternative to S-class" department F01 easily beats W221. As the E65 did with W220. But that was not the case with former 7er models (E38, E32) which were only a sportiest & more driver oriented alternative to S-class but not being more trendy & modern.

What E65 lacked was classy appearence - and that has changed already a bit with the FL, but with the F01 can be described as classy again - without compromising the avant-garde sporty dynamic image. Something original E65 failed - since it was avant-garde & innovative + controversial only. Not dynamic enogh, not sporty enough, not classy enough. With F01 these issues were successfully addressed. F01 is way better alternative to S-class any 7er ever was - incl the E65.

But saying that S-class dominance in this segment won't be lost. But be sure F01 will be the most successful 7er up to date.

Wait until you see & drive the car IRL.

I bet you'll change your mind.

To me complete ICM being based on FlexRay is enough to say DOS vs. Windows claim is true. It's like dial-up modem vs. DSL, if you like this comparison better.

Not to say F01 info system is completely WWW-compatible & connectable.

And some very interesting recognition systems are on board.


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Until MB debuts something as complex as PRE-SCAN (or at least catch up with BMW ConnectedDrive systems) F01 will remain the tech leader.

To me DOS vs. Windows comparison is valid. Perhaps dil-up vs DSL, or 386 vs Pentium is better way to say it.

thanks eni for reply

but i remeber your posts erlier like a mounth or two back and you said that when we see the 7 it will make the s look like windows dos well we all seeing the 7 and it dont make the s look like do infact in someways i think even the facelfte current 7 looks better.

as for technology i agree the 7 is ahead in some ways then the s and yes it should be remebering its a new car by about3 years

but its still has a 6 speed gearbox and no sytsem like the presafe which is now old mb is using it a while

yes the 7 will have the best resolution pics and colors on the i drive screen and it has some really nice tech on the suspenssion and steering i like the new steering system i am shure it will handle as well as all bmws or even better

but u been saying this windows dos thing i really till now dont get it i really dont think the 7er is very futurastic in terms off design and technologies yes it has a few new things but nothing rerally ground breaking or to say that the w221 is dos compared to this ,,,my views

I really don't get it,what is modern about the 7 compared to the S?Apart from the exterior design,i see nothing.Technologically the S offers more or less what the 7 has come up with.

LOL come on rob, you can't even compare those pics.

I think the S really comes into it's element in person. It's graceful and epic. It seems 'nautical' to me for some reason. lol

Taking a completely left-field stab at the subjectivity of all of this:

If I were ever to be in the market for a car in this class between now and 45 years old - I'd probably choose the 7er. It appeals more to my misplaced sense of youth.

The S-Class continues to uphold the virtues of the elegant and classy - of which I am neither. Ruggedly handsome and sportingly gifted that I am (watcha laughing at ?) I think the 7er has more youthful appeal.

Still, that Merc cabin outclasses it for ambience and tranquility...

So in a way - yes, echoing EnI's perspective on the car; it may not ever be an S-Class beater but then again if it was - it wouldn't appeal as a BMW. It's still growing on me btw.