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Come on Andreas, how can you say something like that. I don't think that there is anyone here who doesn't love both RR and Bentley. Very few are biased in this question and I guess you're not one of them...........right?

Just_me, I don`t think that is a fair statement!

I have great respect for Roll Royce, great respect! I was so excited about seeing this Rolls today. This car has so much presence the BMW fan (design) thingy never entered my mind this afternoon till you mensioned it!

Both cars are ugly and ridicolus big. I wouldnt allow my parents buy a Bentley or RR. Pointless cars and just for those who want to show they have money but lack taste.

touch call...the brooklands could have been so much more i think the sketches are unreal...the interior in the roller is phenom...its seems better thant the phantom

In your defence, thats simply not the case...

Perhaps I came on a little too strong, .. I`m sorry!

To extent some of what Just_Me said is true. Some of the posts for Rolls are clearly BMW-lead no matter what, must vote for the BMW product type stuff. Too bad because the Brooklands is easier the better looking car, especially exterior wise. The Rolls side profile is a mess and almost truck like. Interior it is a much closer call, which do you prefer is the question there; old-school or old-school trying to be modern. Brooklands for me no doubt, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

M

^^couldn't agree more.

Seeing a good optician recommended to most of you ...

Brooklands is hardly a majestic design. C'mon.
The RR / Bentley design of 80's & 90's are worthless design-wise. And Brooklands is just a derivate of that 90s design. Trashy design not worthy of Bentley name.

True RR designs were always opulent & in-your-face. Bentley ones even more - since they were sporty alter-ego of RR.

RR by BMW follows the RR design philosophy more than Bentley / VAG does ... VAG went with too vanilla & too mainstream design for the Bentley brand. But that's their new policy for the brand - making it more affordable & mainstream, and not very exclusive (like RR is). Therefore the design follows that policy ...

There is a big difference between Bentley & RR today. Bentley is only a superb luxury car, while RR is also a ... STATEMENT! And that's the factor Bentley completely lacks today.

Spin, spin, spin ENI. People's eyes don't lie to them. All the design talk in the world won't change what people see. Rolls is a BMW owned company and I wouldn't expect anything less than for you to champion any and everything Rolls does no matter how ugly it is.

Now Bentley doesn't make a statement? Are you serious? You're letting your BMW ties run amok. Utterly ridiculous to think Bentley doesn't make a statement.

VW may have made a mistake with the purists concerning the Continental group of cars (though the sales say they're a hit with "somebody"), but the Arnage family of cars are the real article.

M

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Marcus, you are obsessed with the idea everything I say is a spin. Not good for your mental health.


And again: no, Bentley does not make a statement similar to the one RR does make.
Arnage is just a rebadged Silver Seraph (more or less; in its roots), and as I said RR / Bentley cars (incl designs) from 80s & 90s are far from being a true luxury statement & worthy of RR / Bentley badges.

Arnage (and its variants) are just (not very important) relics from 90s.

While Continental family is unfortunately repositioned to be more mainstream & less exclusive ... But that's I guess better for business. Until eg. other brands in VAG portfolio (eg. Porsche & Audi) will come too close with their models (eg. Panamera Turbo S, possible Audi RS7 or A9 or even the next. gen S8).