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Are you sure about the time J_m? (Is this the german Sport Auto?)

More like how mis informed people are over the GTR.

Most overrated car of the year. GTR cannot do 7 min 38 in full production customer spec. Nissan has been misleading again, just like how they were proven to be with the R32, R33 and R34.

Nothing new to see here.

GTR does the 'ring in 7 min 50, thats the only thing we know for definete about the GTR, other than that nissan are liars

Yes he is, and Horst, the driver said nissans claimed time is highly optimistic. Nissan are liars

I think there is another thread somewhere out there where you forgot to parrot your tirade against the GTR.

Only educating people on the facts.

I know of that time but I pay no attention to it - way to little is known of the car used.

The time set by SA was as said before 7,50 mins and it is not known if the car used was a production car. In the article they mention that the track was damp in a key passage in the Kesselchens.

Still a good job I think, just imagine what the V-spec will do!

Sport-Auto Fahrberichte Nissan GT-R: Ost-Erweiterung

What facts? that when the GTR did 7:38 it was driven by Nissan's own driver and the car could have been tuned? Sure, it is possible. But the same goes for the Zonda too.

True. I think that is something we will have to live with. In my personal view that risk is always elevated when it comes to:

1. Super- or turbocharged engines.
2. Vehicles that are produced in a very limited number.

Exactly, people are quick to point out "Nissan used their own driver" well so did Zonda and for that fact, all the TOP times by Porsche are set by Walter Rohrl who is THEIR OWN DAMN DRIVER. I don't care how many times Horst has lapped the damn N-Ring, the fact is he isn't Nissan's factory driver thus he doesn't know the FULL capabilities of the car unlike Nissan's own driver who basically developed the car for the past 6 years.

But people don't quote factory times set by Porsche either.