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[Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

This is a discussion on [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series within the Internal Combustion forums, part of the Website Forums category; laptimes Hockenheim M3:1.14,3 min CLK63 BS 1.13,8 min M3 0-100km/h: 4.8s 80-120km/h: 7.2(6.) Max: 280km/h(M Driver Package option code 07ME) ...

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Old 09-20-2007, 09:47 AM   #1
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[Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

laptimes Hockenheim
M3:1.14,3 min
CLK63 BS 1.13,8 min


M3
0-100km/h: 4.8s
80-120km/h: 7.2(6.)
Max: 280km/h(M Driver Package option code 07ME)


CLK63Black
0-100km/h: 4.5s
80-120km/h: 8.9s(7. speed of autobox)
Max: 300km/h


M3 tires-Michelin Pilot Cup
CLK63Black-Pirelli P Zero Corsa


Source: Sportauto
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[Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

So, can the M3 win your heart?



BMW M3 with Sport Pack
-420 hp
-Michelin Pilot Sport Cup
-280 km/h
-0-100 km/h: 4,8 s
-0-200 km/h: 15,7 s
-80-120 km/h: 7,2 s (6th)

Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series
-507 hp
-Pirelli P Zero Corsa
-300 km/h (limited)
-0-100 km/h: 4,5 s
-0-200 km/h: 14,6 s
-80-120 km/h: 8,9 s (7th)

Hockenheimring:
1.13,8 min - Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series
1.14,3 min - BMW M3


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Re: Sportauto: M3 V8 vs CLK63 Black Series

Very impressive lap times for the both.

EDIT: Threads merged. You guys created the same thread at the exact same time.
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

Mergin threads, me and dede created a thread at same time

EDIT: Bruce, now you and me merged theeads at the same time
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

Can't wait for the M3 CSL and the black series based on the w204. Both will be beasts.
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

Wow...they install a the rear spoiler of the CLK DTM on the Black Series...maybe for better times at the race track... I would be really interested in the data of the "normal" CLK 63 Black Series...
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

No doubt that a Black series is something special and more exclusive but you have to give it to the M3. Impressive result for a car that cost half the price of that black serie car. Bring on the M3 CSL, should be impressive if the standard M3 is this good.

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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

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No doubt that a Black series is something special and more exclusive but you have to give it to the M3. Impressive result for a car that cost half the price of that black serie car. Bring on the M3 CSL, should be impressive if the standard M3 is this good.

PS both on semi R-tires.
I am not so sure the result is so good for the M3. I am not really conversant with Hockenheim times. What are times for some more standard competitors such as the E46 M3, RS4 and 997S?

What was the overall conclusion of the comparison?

RING TIME???

EDIT: From Fastestlaps.com:

R8: 1:12.7
996 GT3: 1:13.2
E46 CSL: 1:13.5
M6: 1:14.4
996 Turbo: 1:14.6
360 Modena: 1:15.1
RS4: 1:15.4
e46 m3: 1:16.3
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

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I am not so sure the result is so good for the M3.
1.14,3 min from a 1.6 ton heavy, 420 hp, rear-wheel drived BMW with Cups is more than great! The old one did it in 1.16,3 min. Only the CSL version of the old one was faster with 0.8 s on the same tyres with a weight of only 1421 kg...

About the acceleration: yap, it's not faster to 100 kph than the old one, but over that speed it starts to fly
0-200 km/h times:
2007 M3: 15,7 s
2003 M3 CSL: 16,7 s
2000 M3: 17,6 s

Flexibility from 80 to 120 km/h in 6th gear:
2007 M3: 7,2 s
2003 M3 CSL: 8,7 s
2000 M3: 9,6 s

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