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Old 09-20-2007, 10:17 AM   #11
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

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1.14,3 min from a 1.6 ton heavy, 420 hp, rear-wheel drived BMW with Cups is more than great! The old one did it in 1.16,3 min. Only the CSL version of the old one was faster with 0.8 s on the same tyres with a weight of only 1421 kgs..
Yes, now that I have some comparative times (see my post above), I agree the time is very good.
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Old 09-20-2007, 10:29 AM   #12
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

Slalom and hockenheimring videos about these two cars now on --> Sport-Auto Videos
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:14 AM   #13
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

This is it,guys..CLK with 6,3 V8 and over 500 HP is almost identical as M3 with 4.0 liter V8 and 420 HP..Nuff said..
P.S. : just wait for CSL..Black Series,watch out !
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:25 AM   #14
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

Impressive numbers from the M3 if you ask me.
Considering the difference in Engine outputs and the cost of the respective cars, I have to say I am impressed with the M3.
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

wow the CLK did real good.. im impressed..
cause its a 6 year old chassi...
so i wonder what the new CLK will have in order for us..
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:32 AM   #16
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

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This is it,guys..CLK with 6,3 V8 and over 500 HP is almost identical as M3 with 4.0 liter V8 and 420 HP..Nuff said..
P.S. : just wait for CSL..Black Series,watch out !
This track doesn't reward cars with more power as much as it does with cars with lighter weight...
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:06 PM   #17
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This track doesn't reward cars with more power as much as it does with cars with lighter weight...
That my be the case but CLK AMG Black Series should be much more track orientated car than standard M3 IMO,should´t it ?I don´t know,I´m no expert here but I though that difference these two should be greater than it is .Even standard M is on parr with CLK Black Series..I´m guessing that CSL will crush it´s nutts on the track .
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

This may sound a bit off topic, but you really have to be a big MB fan to purchase a CLK63 Black Series. For it's price, it should be compared to cars like the 997 GT3 or GT3 RS.

The real comparison test for the M3 that EVERYONE is waiting for is against the C63, which is in the same price segment, just like the previous E46 M3 was pitted against the W203 C55 in comparison tests.

Having said that, the laptime around Hockenheim for the E92 M3 is indeed impressive.
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

Hockenheim isnt about high speeds, it's more important with a good chassi and brakes.

Sportauto's notes regarding Hockenheim:
Unlike the Nordschleife north loop where a clean driving on the ideal line is crucial for a fast laptime, here on Hockenheim a good laptime depend on how hard the driver dare to push the car to the limits.

Extremely late braking and brutal out accelerating from the curves belong to the obligation program. The traction is thereby a very important factor. Since the average speed is relatively low handling is more important than engine performance. Also the efficiency and stability (Fading) of the brakes and transverse accelerations have large influence.
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Re: [Sport Auto] BMW M3 vs. Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series

So,I´m guessing that with this test stops bashing on M3´s alleged lack of "drivers car" focus,I´m I right ?Finnaly,I might add.
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