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Re: Ohh snap Audi vs BMW: 1-0 - 07-19-2007, 06:36 PM

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Prepare for me posers and hairdressers to own these new M3.
Ah, the childish hairdresser argument... I am sure you will still find more E92 M3 at your local track event than any AMG or S/RS cars. And probably hairdressers like cars with sunroofs and shiny little bits to make the interior all pretty.
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Re: Ohh snap Audi vs BMW: 1-0 - 07-19-2007, 06:40 PM

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well said. Looks like BMW fans are turning on their own. What comes to mind is an old saying of love is blind.

I suppose justme will now understand what some of us other guys have been saying. They just cannot take it when someone elses opinion of a BMW vehicle is negative. Especially when it comes to M-cars

I for one loved the E46 M3 and agree with what just me is saying. The new car has lost its original appeal.

Prepare for me posers and hairdressers to own these new M3.
We haven't turned on him...just telling him to wait for some actual F__king reviews rather than listening to initial expressions.

As for your "poser" and "hairdressers" comment, I hope you understand, they already do drive the M3 and they also drive: RS4, S4, S6, AMG-cars, 911 Turbo, GT2/3, Ferrari, Lamborghini and pretty much anything else you can think of. No one is safe from those people, have fun if you think your brand is.
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Re: Ohh snap Audi vs BMW: 1-0 - 07-20-2007, 07:31 AM












Power struggle
BMW’s new, fourth-generation M3 has been unveiled We took Audi’s RS4 to the European launch to find out which really is the ultimate driver's car...



It’s the small badge that’s a big deal for car enthusiasts. Ever since the famous M emblem first appeared on a 3-Series in 1986, it has become recognised as the mark of a true driving machine.

Each generation of M3 has raised the performance bar further
– although what has remained consistent throughout is the model’s reputation for delivering superb handling involvement and dynamic excellence.

It’s no surprise, then, that the arrival of an all-new M3 is a big event. The straight six-cylinder engine that powered the previous two generations has now given way to a V8 as BMW’s quest for power continues.

With a 4.0-litre capacity, the unit develops 414bhp. Meanwhile, a raft of innovative technology – including active dampers, three-level traction control and an active differential – means the newcomer follows the lead of its bigger, V10 brother, the M5, in showcasing the immense engineering abilities of the Munich firm’s M division.

The M3 is due to arrive in UK showrooms in September, and
BMW dealers are already filling their order books. So we headed
out to the car’s international debut to find out just how it compares
with its key competitor.

Audi’s RS4 is a stunning sports saloon that’s also powered by a
V8 – and its engine delivers an identical 414bhp. The top-of-the-range A4 is equipped with the brand’s quattro four-wheel-drive set-up, too, while muscle-bound lines and supple suspension have helped to ensure it’s our favourite model in this class.

So we put the pair head-to-head on some of Europe’s finest roads
to see which takes the crown in one of the most tightly contested performance car battles of the year.



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Re: Ohh snap Audi vs BMW: 1-0 - 07-22-2007, 07:00 AM

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Power struggle
BMW’s new, fourth-generation M3 has been unveiled We took Audi’s RS4 to the European launch to find out which really is the ultimate driver's car...



It’s the small badge that’s a big deal for car enthusiasts. Ever since the famous M emblem first appeared on a 3-Series in 1986, it has become recognised as the mark of a true driving machine.

Each generation of M3 has raised the performance bar further
– although what has remained consistent throughout is the model’s reputation for delivering superb handling involvement and dynamic excellence.

It’s no surprise, then, that the arrival of an all-new M3 is a big event. The straight six-cylinder engine that powered the previous two generations has now given way to a V8 as BMW’s quest for power continues.

With a 4.0-litre capacity, the unit develops 414bhp. Meanwhile, a raft of innovative technology – including active dampers, three-level traction control and an active differential – means the newcomer follows the lead of its bigger, V10 brother, the M5, in showcasing the immense engineering abilities of the Munich firm’s M division.

The M3 is due to arrive in UK showrooms in September, and
BMW dealers are already filling their order books. So we headed
out to the car’s international debut to find out just how it compares
with its key competitor.

Audi’s RS4 is a stunning sports saloon that’s also powered by a
V8 – and its engine delivers an identical 414bhp. The top-of-the-range A4 is equipped with the brand’s quattro four-wheel-drive set-up, too, while muscle-bound lines and supple suspension have helped to ensure it’s our favourite model in this class.

So we put the pair head-to-head on some of Europe’s finest roads
to see which takes the crown in one of the most tightly contested performance car battles of the year.



Sports executives | Car Group Tests | Car Reviews | Auto Express

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You left out the verdict.


VERDICT

BMW obviously had only one rival in mind when it created the M3. The similarities between these two machines are remarkable.
Both have identical power outputs, very closely matched performance figures and equally aggressive styling, while there’s little to separate them on price, either. In the end, it’s the minute differences between the M3 and RS4 that decide this test.

The BMW is unquestionably the better option on a track or an empty road. The trouble is, the sheer technical efficiency of its active damping and adjustable steering – plus the long throw and notchy shift of its six-speed box – means it’s not as involving as previous generations. Put simply, it’s become too complex.

That’s not our only criticism of the M3. While the cabin is very well built, it lacks excitement.

The BMW is a sharper driver’s car, but it’s the Audi that’s more fun day to day. Its performance and handling are so accessible, and it has a feelgood factor that the M3 struggles to equal, plus a great interior and that mighty V8 engine. So the RS4 wins this test by the narrowest of margins.
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Re: Ohh snap Audi vs BMW: 1-0 - 07-22-2007, 07:03 AM

what Merc posted there you can already read on the first page on this thread. Its the same comparison posted twice.
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Re: Ohh snap Audi vs BMW: 1-0 - 07-22-2007, 07:05 AM

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Ah, the childish hairdresser argument... I am sure you will still find more E92 M3 at your local track event than any AMG or S/RS cars. And probably hairdressers like cars with sunroofs and shiny little bits to make the interior all pretty.

Thats because AMG's arent really bought by people that track cars and RS cars are really rare. There are tons of M3's in London and most of them are owned by juniour sales executives and mummies taking their kids to school.

If I wanted a performance car for the track, I would buy a lotus/porsche/caterham or a Evo. M3's etc are getting too heavy these days. Weight is a vehicles biggest enemy.
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Re: Ohh snap Audi vs BMW: 1-0 - 07-22-2007, 12:03 PM

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You left out the verdict.
The verdict had already been posted, I was just linking the article and put up some pics.

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Re: Ohh snap Audi vs BMW: 1-0 - 07-22-2007, 02:10 PM

Is the M3 longer then the RS4?


The front of the M3 looks as long as the M6.
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Re: Ohh snap Audi vs BMW: 1-0 - 07-22-2007, 02:15 PM

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Is the M3 longer then the RS4?


The front of the M3 looks as long as the M6.
The RS4 measures 4.586m, the M3 4.615m, so yes, the M3 is almost 3cm longer.

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Re: Ohh snap Audi vs BMW: 1-0 - 07-30-2007, 03:31 PM

Congrats for Audi for winning this comparison!
I think the verdict means that almost anyone can have fun in the RS4 while the M3 needs a good driver to be more awarding than the Audi.
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