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Old 06-20-2007, 05:48 AM   #11
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Re: Autocar: Ford beats BMW

Guys you have to remember that controversial-pompus statements sell issues. Everyone will want to read the issue where the sub 20k euro Ford beats the over 30k euro worth BMW (like that it's possible , give me a break).
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:02 AM   #12
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Re: Autocar: Ford beats BMW

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I'm only going by what they advertised on the front cover. Surely they wouldn't lie, would they??

As for the C-Class, well, because the 3 is the benchmark, it would also beat the others right?
Im still wondering what "better drive" means. They just claiming this on the cover but inside there is nothing. Of course they put in on the cover to create a intrests but people will be disappointed once they read the whole article. I know I was. The headline is striking but not the inside material. Too bad they dont even mention laptimes,slalomspeeds or which is more fun to drive.

I havent driven the new Mondeo but I somehow doubt its a better drive than 3-series and the C-class. I want to hear more opinions. Time will tell.
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:26 AM   #13
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Re: Autocar: Ford beats BMW

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Im still wondering what "better drive" means. They just claiming this on the cover but inside there is nothing. Of course they put in on the cover to create a intrests but people will be disappointed once they read the whole article. I know I was. The headline is striking but not the inside material. Too bad they dont even mention laptimes,slalomspeeds or which is more fun to drive.

I havent driven the new Mondeo but I somehow doubt its a better drive than 3-series and the C-class. I want to hear more opinions. Time will tell.

I agree with you here. Maybe a few more reviews and actual comparisons from other magazines but gee, it makes you wnder though!!
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:32 AM   #14
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Re: Autocar: Ford beats BMW

I remember the Autocar 3 series review back in 2005 which stopped short of mentioning something to the effect that this is the best car in the world. They loved the 3 series ! In fact Jeremy Clarkson and the guys at Top Gear always had something against BMW. The Top Gear TV review of the 3 series kept on mentioning the Mondeo every 10 seconds through the review..

I really don't understand how Autocar is making such a strong statement here. Personally, I used to own a Mondeo before my current E90 and there is a world of difference in every aspect. The Mondeo is a great car but not good enough to beat the 3 series. ...maybe the new Mondeo is truly a miracle...
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:59 AM   #15
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Re: Autocar: Ford beats BMW

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...maybe the new Mondeo is truly a miracle...
Which isn't. I think that all this is just about marketing (more sales)
There is no way that a company like Ford which competes (Mondeo) in the affordable family car segment can compete with the 3 series, the benchmark when it comes to driving in the family car segment. That is impossible.
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:08 AM   #16
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Re: Autocar: Ford beats BMW

I don't really belive this crap.
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:33 AM   #17
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Re: Autocar: Ford beats BMW

The Ford Mondeo is probably the better family car, but I just can't see it beating the BMW in driving dynamics.

Either way, don't trust these reviews. I agree with Eni. The British editors here are just being patriotic.


EDIT: On a side note, maybe this is the reason for this: Ford Mondeo launch in Germany a huge success - 10,000 already sold!

Link: Ford Mondeo launch in Germany a huge success - 10,000 sold


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Old 06-21-2007, 10:47 AM   #18
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Re: Autocar: Ford beats BMW

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EDIT: On a side note, maybe this is the reason for this: Ford Mondeo launch in Germany a huge success - 10,000 already sold!

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Ford models are very popular in Germany ... In every segment (considering non-premium brands only) ... Fiesta, Focus, Mondeo, ... Usually sales are just behind VW & Opel (or even sometimes surpassing Opel), than followed by Skoda, Renault, PSA etc.

New Mondeo will be very popular. It is a better value for money than Passat, more fun to drive, more excitingly styled etc

But IMO new Opel Vectra will be a the winner in this segment. Styling will be very fresh, new chassis will be very capable, quality / reliability will be improved, price will be right ...

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Re: Autocar: Ford beats BMW

Passat is still the best car on the segment and the best seller in Germany. Mondeo seems like a good car but i 'm sure that Ford did again what they are very good at....
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Old 06-24-2007, 02:35 AM   #20
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Re: Autocar: Ford beats BMW

Why compare a mondeo to a 3er or any other premieum cars? I see the mondeo more of a Honda Accord/Toyota Camry competitor, in which case it beats both of them (at least in looks). I think ford is pretty f__king stupid for not brining the Mondeo to the US yet giving us the POS Fusion and Taurus.
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