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Just_me · 06-18-2007, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Yannis

. Beating the 3 series in driving dynamics is a huge accomplishment.

excuse me but where do you read the C-class beats the 3er? I dont see where they write the C is more involving to drive than the bimmer?

Yannis · 06-18-2007, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

excuse me but where do you read the C-class beats the 3er? I dont see where they write the C is more involving to drive than the bimmer?

"The Sport-spec C220 CDI is better overall to drive than the M Sport BMW, plus is more refined and attractive, faster and only costs a little more."

What does "better overall to drive" mean?

Surely Audi and Mercedes can make sporty cars if they want , i don't think that BMW has the exclussive right to be he only sporty brand.

Just_me · 06-18-2007, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Yannis

"The Sport-spec C220 CDI is better overall to drive than the M Sport BMW, plus is more refined and attractive, faster and only costs a little more."

What does "better overall to drive" mean?

Certainly nothing to do with driving dynamics. Its not my definition of driving dynamics.
Also if you read the article they said the 3er is a better drive without the M-package.

You just say this to try to provoke , you bad bad boy!!!

EnI · 06-18-2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Yannis

"The Sport-spec C220 CDI is better overall to drive than the M Sport BMW, plus is more refined and attractive, faster and only costs a little more."

What does "better overall to drive" mean?

They explained that in the article: 320d ride comfort suck on English roads due too stiff suspension (M-pack).

"Power arrives steadily right through the rev range. The 320d also has a sharp throttle response, plus the strongest and most communicative brakes in this test. These predictable controls make it easier to drive around town than the C220, while on more open country roads the steering is sharper than on any of its rivals. The BMW turns in with an accuracy and level of feedback that its opponents struggle to match. There’s plenty of grip, too, and thanks to the rear-wheel-drive layout, traction is superb.

On UK roads, the 3-Series isn’t at its best in M Sport trim due to the firmness of the ride, which means that it jumps and fidgets over bumps that don’t trouble the C-Class. The 320d simply doesn’t come across as being that relaxing to drive, and so proves more tiring on long trips.

Overall, the BMW’s chassis lacks the composure of the Mercedes’, while on the motorway it can’t match its refinement. Nevertheless, if it was our money, we’d opt for the SE spec with its more absorbent suspension – it strikes a better balance between comfort and entertainment than this more aggressive M Sport set-up."

vedjo01 · 06-18-2007, 08:25 AM

3-series won?Well,there is no suprise because IMO Alfa has quallity problems,MB still needs to learn few tricks how to design appealing rear end,Audi is on it´s way to be replaced with new model...

Tumbo · 06-21-2007, 06:13 PM

Damn, the A4 needs to get a new model.

And btw, I really do not like the rear of the C-klass. It's just...wrong.

cawimmer430 · 06-22-2007, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vedjo01

MB still needs to learn few tricks how to design appealing rear end...

Design is subjective. Personally I feel this screams HYUNDAI.

No offense.

The Artist · 06-22-2007, 10:57 AM

^yep that rear aint pretty

Imhotep Evil · 06-22-2007, 11:16 AM

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Power arrives steadily right through the rev range. The 320d also has a sharp throttle response, plus the strongest and most communicative brakes in this test. These predictable controls make it easier to drive around town than the C220, while on more open country roads the steering is sharper than on any of its rivals. The BMW turns in with an accuracy and level of feedback that its opponents struggle to match. There’s plenty of grip, too, and thanks to the rear-wheel-drive layout, traction is superb."

"On UK roads, the 3-Series isn’t at its best in M Sport trim due to the firmness of the ride, which means that it jumps and fidgets over bumps that don’t trouble the C-Class. The 320d simply doesn’t come across as being that relaxing to drive, and so proves more tiring on long trips."

"Overall, the BMW’s chassis lacks the composure of the Mercedes’, while on the motorway it can’t match its refinement. Nevertheless, if it was our money, we’d opt for the SE spec with its more absorbent suspension – it strikes a better balance between comfort and entertainment than this more aggressive M Sport set-up."

By this type of reasoning, because its suspension is stiff and the car ain't relaxing, an F1 car therefor has the worst driving dynamics in the world.

Nevermind throttle, braking, steering, turn in acuracy, grip, traction ... all irelevant to driving dynamics.

A soft suspension = driving dynamics for them

Just_me · 06-23-2007, 09:40 AM

new c-class isnt a beauty either. A4 has the best rear

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