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Old 08-27-2009, 08:22 AM   #1
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Angry This cash for clunkers program really pisses me off.

In fact, the whole idea of scrapping a roadworthy car to get a rebate on a brand new one, just fills me with rage.

Watch the slow and painful death of this 1998 Jaguar XJ8 in the American "Cash for Clunkers" program.



Whoever was the sad bastard who traded the XJ8 in, clearly didn't deserve such nice car.

You saw that beige Volvo S80 behind the Jaguar? It was a 9 year old car... In Pristine condition. Here's the video of its equally slow and painful death:



And here's the BMW 530i they talked about in both videos:



All three useful nice cars being murdered on purpose... W-T- F?!
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The problem is that your government's definition of a "clonker" is quite bad. First of all, cars with a catalytic converter should never be included... otherwise, the resourses used in building the new car will surely pollute more than the gains.
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Old 08-27-2009, 10:54 AM   #3
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The problem is that your government's definition of a "clonker" is quite bad.
Their definition of pretty much everything is quite bad! The sooner we're rid of this load of incompetent liars the better.

My S4 had to go last year for financial reasons, so I'm currently driving around in a '98 B5 A4 1.9TDi quattro Sport which has 175,000 miles on the clock. In monetary terms it's worth buttons, but in value terms it's worth its weight in gold to me as it suits my current circumstances perfectly. It's a quattro, it has leather, climate control, cruise control, a CD changer and a full service history. Sure, there are plenty of other creature comforts I miss from the S4 days (not to mention the performance etc.) but this car costs me next to nothing to run and averages 50mpg (approx. 600 miles to a tank). Being an Audi it's built properly, everything works and the only things it's needed replacing in 50,000 miles were service and wear items. It's a relatively rare model too, so am I going to scrap this perfectly good A4 so that I can get £2000 off some Korean piece of crap?! Hell no! If some twat tries to tell me I should scrap my car in order to drive around in a bloody Hyundai i30 just because it's 'new', they're going to get told to feck off in no uncertain terms!
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:11 PM   #4
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A monkey could have written a more effective bill.
No are over 25 years old, yes we all know those cars are super clean
I wonder how many of these "clunkers" are worth more then $4500?

The ones that are hurting the most are the charities. All the companies that take donated cars and sell them to help the poor are not getting anything because the cars they would be getting are now being crushed.
Not too surprised by this considering how much two certain people in power donate to charity each year. One donated less then 1% of his income(don't have a dollar figure), the other $350, but then both only made minimum $180K. So much for redistribution of wealth.
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What are they putting into the engine?
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What are they putting into the engine?
Sodium silicate, which is basically "liquid glass".
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What are they putting into the engine?

Engine "killer" juice! Lol


Suppose to be something that destroys the engine!

Well people are loving the program and it's about time some of those cars come off the street. If there CLUNKERS then they must go!

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And here's the BMW 530i they talked about in both videos:

All three useful nice cars being murdered on purpose... W-T- F?!
That BMW is old and has served it's purpose to it's owner. Time for it to be Clunked. We can't keep everything.
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I'm a bit confused wouldn't the Jag and Volvo traded in for far more than the $4,500 the government was offering? What are these people smoking, snorting, or shooting up?
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I'm a bit confused wouldn't the Jag and Volvo traded in for far more than the $4,500 the government was offering? What are these people smoking, snorting, or shooting up?
Anyone who traded these cars in without looking at the trade-in value is stupid. Sad thing is I bet some of them did just that. On the other hand my father turned his car in for cash for clunkers and got way more then he would have if he traded it in or sold it out right. So in his case it was a good deal.
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How many miles did the Jaguar have? The price of keeping that thing the road made it a clunker. It probably wasn't worth keeping anymore anyway, ditto the Volvo.


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