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Old 08-27-2009, 05:31 PM   #11
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Anyone who traded these cars in without looking at the trade-in value is stupid. Sad thing is I bet some of them did just that. On the other hand my father turned his car in for cash for clunkers and got way more then he would have if he traded it in or sold it out right. So in his case it was a good deal.
Checked the Volvo in trade in value which is a little less than 4500, but if the person where to sell it themselves they could have gotten away with a whole lot more.
Sucks for me because my Isuzu went belly up roughly 9 months ago, could have gotten in on this deal if it lasted that much longer...
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:01 PM   #12
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How many miles did the Jaguar have? The price of keeping that thing the road made it a clunker. It probably wasn't worth keeping anymore anyway, ditto the Volvo.


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The Jag was probably not worth it but the running cost of a typical early S80 is close to nil. That one looked quite banged up so that might have been the reason to let it taste the grinder...
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:49 PM   #13
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Though it is painful for any gearhead to see a car get destroyed such is the way the industry works. I always get a little sad when I see old Mercs in junkyards... But hey at the end of the day it's just a hunk of metal and plastic.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:36 PM   #14
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Checked the Volvo in trade in value which is a little less than 4500, but if the person where to sell it themselves they could have gotten away with a whole lot more.
True, then again some people don't want to go through the hassle of selling it.

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Sucks for me because my Isuzu went belly up roughly 9 months ago, could have gotten in on this deal if it lasted that much longer...
Yea, they were hoping that it would last for a few months. Guess everyone was waiting for the right time to buy. Too bad the deal didn't last.
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:16 PM   #15
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I'm a bit confused wouldn't the Jag and Volvo traded in for far more than the $4,500 the government was offering? What are these people smoking, snorting, or shooting up?
Actually those Jags and Volvos out here are pretty much worthless. Nobody wants them and even the dealership will low ball you to a point where it's better to burn the damn thing than give it to them. Dealerships out here are F__king poachers when it comes to trade ins.

I can't watch those videos. I might not be a fan of those cars but I can't watch them suffer either.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:07 AM   #16
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Holy cow! A Maserati in the yard too! Went for only $3500 & just 18480 miles on odo!

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Old 08-28-2009, 11:31 AM   #17
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If by saying clunker you mean a car that's unfit for the road and therefore should be scrapped, then yes I agree. But in this case, "clunker" is a misnomer since the "clunkers" traded in were not really clunkers.

Anyway, this program proved to be a failure and it didn't help Detroit manufacturers that much. In fact, four out of five cars that people purchased under this program were from the Asian brands.
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If by saying clunker you mean a car that's unfit for the road and therefore should be scrapped, then yes I agree. But in this case, "clunker" is a misnomer since the "clunkers" traded in were not really clunkers.

Anyway, this program proved to be a failure and it didn't help Detroit manufacturers that much. In fact, four out of five cars that people purchased under this program were from the Asian brands.
Actually it was very beneficial to a lot of dealers. I even heard on the news that Chevy factory works actually got paid overtime for the first time in months due to the demand. Of course the program wasn't going to change the whole market and get us out of the recession, but it was very helpful in getting the Automotive market back on track. I have a lot of friends who work for dealerships and they are finally making some money again.

Yes, a few good cars got scrapped, but in the end the humans benefited and that's all that matters. Yes, we are car enthusiasts, but a car is just metal.
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If by saying clunker you mean a car that's unfit for the road and therefore should be scrapped, then yes I agree. But in this case, "clunker" is a misnomer since the "clunkers" traded in were not really clunkers.

Anyway, this program proved to be a failure and it didn't help Detroit manufacturers that much. In fact, four out of five cars that people purchased under this program were from the Asian brands.

Those cars were old, tired, too expensive to keep on the road so they should have been scrapped. Old Volvos, Jaguars or any European car gets to a point where it really isn't worth it to most people to keep fixing on them. Nobody wants an 11 year old Jaguar but a Jaguar nut. Ditto for a Volvo. They wouldn't get anything for them at a dealer outside of this program.


You have got to be kidding about this CARS program not helping Detroit? Ford posted its first sales gain in 2 years. GM, Ford, and Chrysler dealers were out of cars (that one that qualify) by second week of the program. The CARS program has been anything but a failure and it actually cleared out hundreds of thousands of sitting units for the American companies (and the Japanese).

Now the next story will be the huge drop of in sales for last week of August and the month of Sept...expect huge drops all across the board.

The killer is that everyone ramped up production for a program that is already over. So by the time all these rushed cars get to dealers there will be no buyers, literally putting Detroit an Japan back where they started, if they aren't careful/smart enough to stop increasing production now.


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Sure you can say this program helped some people, it did.
But it also hurt a lot of people too.
It cleared out a bunch of cars that were just sitting around, so the companies plan to start increasing production just in time to make cars that will sit around for months. Leading to massive stoppages in a few weeks/months. Should lead to a very nice Christmas for many workers

All those cars have to be crushed by certain companies (how were they chosen?) These cars can not be used for anything else. People in my dad's office are not happy that they can not get any of the cars. They are forced to go out and buy (using tax payer money) special vehicles for high speed targets.
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