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Remy Zero · 05-13-2009, 09:24 AM

F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of of motorsports, not a budget one. I understand the economic situation now, but, the economy will always rise and fall.

Now, rather than attracting big manufacters, F1 is attracting small spenders, and budget teams. No offense, but i think this is not the place for them. They have other series to suit their budgets.

Personally, i think both Max and especially Bernie, are greedy people. They have totally destroyed F1. I really hope to see Ferrari develop a diesel and take the fight to Audi and Peugoet at Le Mans, with Schumacher 'tagging' along.

Centurion · 05-13-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Remy Zero

I understand the economic situation now, but, the economy will always rise and fall.

That's my point as well, this isn't the first recession that motor sport has experienced and to be honest it's a fairly mild one. F1 and The Victoria's Secret Show are all highly appealing because of the exclusivity and for being the absolute best. By allowing anyone with money to participate, the attraction would erode.

€40 million is peanuts in the business world and would result in random drivers with inheritance money starting up a team that would just wreck other cars and waste time on the circuit. Like it has all been stated, those who are whinning about money are very free to join GP2.

Ferrari and Mercedes have transferred a lot of knowledge gained in F1 to their production cars. And if they are prohibited by budget restrictions in pushing technological boundaries, then F1 become nothing but a market circuit. Thankfully fans and manufacturers stand united on this so Mosley better take his thumb out of his ass and realise that he and Bernie are just wasting people's time and money now.

Imhotep Evil · 05-13-2009, 02:34 PM

Dieter Rencken's, Autosport.com, rumors & speculations regarding the possibility of 7 abandoning teams buying the A1GP franchise?

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For their money they would acquire an FIA-approved series with the required international infrastructure, circuit contracts with the likes of Mugello, Kyalami, Portimao, Surfers' Paradise, Zandvoort, Brands Hatch and Sepang, with plans to go to Interlagos, Laguna Seca, Montreal and India. And, hang, one look at the Automobile Club de Monaco's long term commitment to the IRC rather than the FIA's WRC shows which way the principality may jump, particularly given the allure of Ferrari...

Factor in the immediate availability of one (or both) German circuits, Silverstone, Magny-Cours, Toyota-owned Fuji, the Red Bull-controlled A1-Ring and either Jerez or Valencia's permanent track, plus previous A1GP circuits such as Brno, Shanghai and Estoril, and a ready-made calendar stares one in the face, one in which the manufacturers can accommodate their own series (having sold or scrapped A1GP's race hardware), with support programmes made by their own junior formulae – FBMW, FRenault or even DTM and touring cars.

autosport.com

Centurion · 05-13-2009, 02:39 PM

^^
Amazing news and I pray that teams are considering the option. It would unlock the handcuffs forever tying F1 to the tyranny of Max and Bernie. Finally the sport could be ruled by democracy and reopen the ports to technological breakthroughs.

Imhotep Evil · 05-13-2009, 02:43 PM

McMerc needs right now to officially, that's to say verbally, support the Ferrari/Renault/Toyota/Red Bull camp.

bmer · 05-13-2009, 07:03 PM

Max's proposal for 2010 season:

chonkoa · 05-14-2009, 12:10 AM

I am glad more teams are openly discussing pulling out of F1.
I am getting tired of the constant changing of the rules.
I think the big teams need to form their own championship.

Remy Zero · 05-14-2009, 04:57 AM

MILAN, May 13 2009 - What now? After the revolt of Ferrari and the other main constructors, which refuse a two-tier Formula 1, Max Mosley can not remain unyielding on his positions. It has to come in the open and decide whether he wants a championship with many small teams accepting to "spend less" or whether to go ahead with the big ones, which are willing to reduce costs but won't accept a championship made up of "Mayor" and "Minor" league teams, the latter (the "spend less"), being favoured by a number of technical facilities for the whole car, from the engine, to the aerodynamic and even 4-wheel drive machines.

The big five (Fiat-Ferrari, BMW, Mercedes, Renault, Toyota) seem to be ready with an alternative WC outside FIA, with the commitment to deploy three machines each. And with none other than Valentino Rossi, who has already done several tests with the Maranello's cars. It would be an extraordinary move, both from a marketing point of view as for the sport.

Pino Allievi.

http://www.gazzetta.it/Motori/Formul...99643380.shtml

Sunny · 05-14-2009, 05:06 AM

I think there will be a Max-Bernie feud if Max doesn't give in. Max probably wants the teams out cause they wanted him out after the hooker scandal. But I doubt Bernie wants that, he is the holds the commercial rights and it is bad for business to loose Ferrari.

dr Dunkel · 05-14-2009, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Remy Zero

The big five (Fiat-Ferrari, BMW, Mercedes, Renault, Toyota) seem to be ready with an alternative WC outside FIA, with the commitment to deploy three machines each. And with none other than Valentino Rossi, who has already done several tests with the Maranello's cars. It would be an extraordinary move, both from a marketing point of view as for the sport.

Pino Allievi.

I'm really hoping this will happen!

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