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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | FP3 Pos Driver Team Time Laps 1. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:20.553 18 2. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:20.635 + 0.082 22 3. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:21.050 + 0.497 19 4. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:21.163 + 0.610 17 5. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:21.239 + 0.686 21 6. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:21.256 + 0.703 23 7. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:21.346 + 0.793 16 8. Glock Toyota (B) 1:21.377 + 0.824 26 9. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.424 + 0.871 19 10. Alonso Renault (B) 1:21.499 + 0.946 17 11. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:21.519 + 0.966 15 12. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.594 + 1.041 20 13. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:21.629 + 1.076 19 14. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.649 + 1.096 19 15. Piquet Renault (B) 1:21.685 + 1.132 18 16. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:21.689 + 1.136 18 17. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:21.909 + 1.356 19 18. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:22.043 + 1.490 19 19. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:22.232 + 1.679 19 20. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:23.457 + 2.904 8
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Qual. Button flies to Spanish GP pole Pos Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 1. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:20.707 1:20.192 1:20.527 2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:20.715 1:20.220 1:20.660 3. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:20.808 1:19.954 1:20.762 4. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:20.484 1:20.149 1:20.934 5. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:20.689 1:20.007 1:21.049 6. Glock Toyota (B) 1:20.877 1:20.107 1:21.247 7. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:21.189 1:20.420 1:21.254 8. Alonso Renault (B) 1:21.186 1:20.509 1:21.392 9. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.745 1:20.256 1:22.558 10. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:20.931 1:20.408 1:22.685 11. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.818 1:20.531 12. Piquet Renault (B) 1:21.128 1:20.604 13. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:21.095 1:20.676 14. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.991 1:20.805 15. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.033 1:21.067 16. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:21.291 17. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.300 18. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:21.675 19. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:21.742 20. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:22.204
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ferrari and Kimi cocked up onece again but Massa's P4 makes up for me, solid improvement by the red. One thing is for sure, Button and Brawn will be the winners this year. All the other constructors have had 2 months to catch up but have failed to do so. If the current pecking order remains through to September, then I recommend Mclaren and Ferrari to write this year off and get started on next year's car. Once in a while everyone lose and what accounts for greatness is how you pick yourself up again. And yes, that includes BMW as well because currently they can be described as a dog chewing its own tail. All three team need to start looking ahead if they don't manage to win races before the summer break. Mclaren need to considering their drivers and they can't rely on Hamilton to carry the team. When the Brit doesn't finish in top ten, the team doesn't get any championship points because Heiki rarely deliver. They need to drop him if they ever want to win a constructors championship. With a great availability of drivers I don't see why they are clinging on to him. Bouemi is a promising bird to watch but signing Vettel will gain Mclaren huge popularity in Germany and would sure deter Mercedes from withdrawing from F1 |
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Vettel and the Red Bull is seriously fast. Brawn is going lighter this time around and Massa Ferrari isn't as bad as I thought. From what I can see on TV, Ferrari is still running the single deck diffuser. Massa can potentially jump the lot of them to the 1st corner since the cars in front of him doesn't have KERS.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'm happy that Massa made it to 4th. With the KERS, and no reliabilty issues, it could be a real good first corner tomoro. Kimi again proves why it's time to get sacked. I seriously can't believe how the Scuderia can make the same sh!t mistake in just 2-3races. According to ITV, it was Kimi's decision not to go out with 1:21 min remaining in the session. On the other hand...RedBull and Vettel is the real deal.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Boring, boring, boring, f****** boring. Not a single pass. **** the new aero-tires rules, they didn't work at all. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS The Spanish Grand Prix Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona, Spain; 66 laps; 307.104km; Weather: Sunny. Classified: Pos Driver Team Time 1. Button Brawn GP-Mercedes (B) 1h37:19.202 2. Barrichello Brawn GP-Mercedes (B) + 13.056 3. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) + 13.924 4. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) + 18.941 5. Alonso Renault (B) + 43.166 6. Massa Ferrari (B) + 50.827 7. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) + 52.312 8. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) + 1:05.211 9. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) + 1 lap 10. Glock Toyota (B) + 1 lap 11. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) + 1 lap 12. Piquet Renault (B) + 1 lap 13. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) + 1 lap 14. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) + 1 lap Fastest lap: Barrichello, 1:22.762 Not classified/retirements: Driver Team On lap Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 18 Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 8 Trulli Toyota (B) 1 Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1 Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1 Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | World Championship standings, round 5: Drivers: 1. Button 41 2. Barrichello 27 3. Vettel 23 4. Webber 15.5 5. Trulli 14.5 6. Glock 12 7. Alonso 9 8. Hamilton 9 9. Heidfeld 6 10. Rosberg 4.5 11. Kovalainen 4 12. Massa 3 13. Buemi 3 14. Raikkonen 3 15. Bourdais 1 Constructors: 1. Brawn GP-Mercedes 68 2. Red Bull-Renault 38.5 3. Toyota 26.5 4. McLaren-Mercedes 13 5. Renault 9 6. BMW Sauber 6 7. Ferrari 6 8. Williams-Toyota 4.5 9. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 4
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | > ^ I hope RBR brings on the new B spec with fancy diffuser at Monaco as they promised. This is becoming the least contested season since 2004 and with Barcelona showcasing no overtaking improvements (if not worse) I fear for the future. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Are you entertained Bernie? Am certainly not and neither is anyone else besides the Brawn team and Button's family. Brawn is a new found team without heritage or a history and them winning every race doesn't trigger any emotions or butterflies in anyone. Half the grand stands at Barcelona were empty and I can see the same fate for Turkey, Germany and many other race weekends. ![]() I welcome underdogs but how fun is F1 when a new team with very old drivers are a light years ahead of everyone, facing zero competition at all. If there wasn't a ban imposed on in-season training then at least the other team would have a chance to catch up and challenge. These days the thrill of watching F1 is not in watching Brawn win but to see how Ferrari will cock up. ![]() Brawn is just a fad. Given that they are only contracted to get a supply of Mercedes engines for this year, they can forget about getting any next year given how they have performed this year. They will have to opt for the Cosworth engine which I doubt will deliver the same reliability as the German sledge hammer. Rules are changing for next year as well and without Honda money they will need a serious injection of cash for developing next years car. Their present is gloomy but their future is looking foggy. Expect the F1 hierarchy to be restored next year. |
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