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Old 05-10-2009, 05:33 PM   #11
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F1 : Red Bull Racing joins Toyota in 2010 Formula 1 entry boycott

F1 : Red Bull Racing joins Toyota in 2010 Formula 1 entry boycott



Red Bull has followed Toyota in declaring that it will not enter next year's Formula One World Championship under the current regulations.

Toyota's team President John Howett made the threat this weekend in Barcelona, as other teams including Ferrari and BMW also openly baulk at the governance of the sport by Max Mosley and his plans for voluntary budget caps.

"Conditions at the moment are not so, that we would enter a team for next year," Red Bull team owner Dietrich Mateschitz, at the Spanish Grand Prix this weekend, said in an interview that will be published by Austria's Salzburger Nachrichten newspaper on Monday.

The billionaire suggested that the other "manufacturer teams" will also not take part. "Of the teams now, only two or three will remain," Mateschitz added.

The FIA's deadline for 2010 entries is May 29.

McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh said after a two hour meeting of the FOTA teams on Sunday that public threats about not meeting the deadline are "not helpful".

However, it is expected that, depending on the outcome of a meeting with Mosley in London next week, FOTA could announce a sweeping boycott of the May 29 deadline.


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Old 05-10-2009, 05:49 PM   #12
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I would say the same but Red Bull and Toyota are toothless. For a boycott to work, it needs to have Mclaren and Ferrari behind it or else FIA won't go down on their knees begging.
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I would say the same but Red Bull and Toyota are toothless. For a boycott to work, it needs to have Mclaren and Ferrari behind it or else FIA won't go down on their knees begging.
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^ For once I agree with Briatore:



"Whoever has 20 or 25 million Euros should not be able to operate a Formula One team," said the Italian. "If we make that possible, the brand will be worth nothing.

"It would be like seeing discount stores suddenly established on an exclusive shopping street,"
said Briatore, the owner of high-end clubs and fashion stores named Billionaire.


He said the situation is serious, because big names including Toyota, BMW and Red Bull have already threatened to quit over the situation.

"Without big, important names - and Ferrari is one of them - Formula One is worth much less," the 59-year-old insisted.

But he suggested that he is not completely opposed to the idea of budget capping.

"I could imagine that FOTA - not in 2010, but starting from 2011 - agrees with the FIA on a minimum sum per year, that is obligatory for all the teams," said Briatore.

"A brutal solution, that is before us at the moment, doesn't have a chance," he insisted.
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Ferrari also threatened to quit if the budget cap is adopted.

And with the rumours of Daimler's Board not supporting the F1 engagement that much in those days, and Zetsche threatening to quit if the punishment had been too severe in the lying affair...
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"Whoever has 20 or 25 million Euros should not be able to operate a Formula One team," said the Italian. "If we make that possible, the brand will be worth nothing.

"It would be like seeing discount stores suddenly established on an exclusive shopping street,"
said Briatore, the owner of high-end clubs and fashion stores named Billionaire.


He said the situation is serious, because big names including Toyota, BMW and Red Bull have already threatened to quit over the situation.

"Without big, important names - and Ferrari is one of them - Formula One is worth much less," the 59-year-old insisted.

But he suggested that he is not completely opposed to the idea of budget capping.

"I could imagine that FOTA - not in 2010, but starting from 2011 - agrees with the FIA on a minimum sum per year, that is obligatory for all the teams," said Briatore.

"A brutal solution, that is before us at the moment, doesn't have a chance," he insisted.
No doubt. Those organisations with limited budgets should compete in GP2 or a more affordable formula series. F1 isn't meant to be for everyone.
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Teams fail to reach agreement with FIA

Friday, May 22nd 2009, 18:23 GMT
By Jonathan Noble

Formula 1 teams failed to reach an agreement with FIA president Max Mosley about the future of the sport on Friday, despite lengthy talks that ran into the early evening.

Following a series of discussions over the course of the day, the teams met with Mosley to try and find a resolution to their unhappiness about plans for a voluntary budget cap.

However, despite talking for almost three hours no agreement was reached meaning several teams remain poised to not lodge entries for 2010 by next weeks deadline.

Although most team principals refused to comment about the situation as they left the Automobile Club de Monaco, Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo revealed that more talks were needed.

"It was a long and constructive meeting," he said. "FOTA will have another meeting tomorrow, and then there will be another meeting with Mosley.


Full article: autosport.com - F1 News: Teams fail to reach agreement with FIA
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