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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Bernie Wants Standard Engines For 2010 I can see carmakers selling or closing down their teams if this decision stays in action. What's the point of having Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW, Renault, Toyota teams with Cosworth engines? ![]() From engineering point of view engine development is the most important factor for carmakers to enter F1. With standardized outsourced engines, electronics, tyres - the only what's left for carmakers to develop is the chassis - and even this with many limitations & strict regulations. Same case with aerodynamics. F1 - as the "king of motorsports" should be the most high-tech lab for carmakers. I'm sure in the case of carmaker-led F1 turbo engines, hybrid drives, active suspenssion, active aerodynamics, super-tech electronics etc would be allowed. And most of solutions would soon be offered in some production vehicles. So, Bernie wants to make F1 to be Formula Bernie - analog to formula BMW, or Formula Mercedes etc - same cars, different drivers. Boring. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Bernie Wants Standard Engines For 2010 Cosworth wins FIA standard engine tender for 2010 ![]() PRESS RELEASE The announcement of Honda's intended withdrawal from Formula One has confirmed the FIA's longstanding concern that the cost of competing in the World Championship is unsustainable. In the FIA's view, the global economic downturn has only exacerbated an already critical situation. As the guardians of the sport, the FIA is committed to working with the commercial rights holder and the remaining members of FOTA to ensure that Formula One becomes financially sustainable. The FIA President has today sent the attached letter to all of the Formula One teams: Further to my letter of 18 November, we have completed the tendering process and are now in exclusive negotiations with Cosworth together with Xtrac and Ricardo Transmissions to supply a complete Formula One power train starting in 2010. The engine will be a current Formula One engine while the transmission will be state of the art Formula One and a joint effort by two companies which already supply transmissions to most of the grid. The cost to each team taking up this option will be an up front payment of €1.97 million Euros and then €6.42 million Euros per season for each of the three years of the supply contract. This price is based on four teams signing up and includes full technical support at all races and official tests, plus 30,000 km of testing. The annual cost will reduce if more teams take up the option, for example to €5.84 million Euro per team with eight teams. It will further reduce if less than 30,000 km of testing is required. Neither engine nor transmission will be badged. As suggested in my letter of 18 November, teams participating in the 2010 Championship would then have three options:
In combination with the programme of cost reductions for the chassis, race weekend and team home base outlined in my letter of 18 November, these arrangements have a number of advantages. These include:
In the event of fewer than four teams signing up, the FIA may still proceed but the price on offer will vary. The supply contracts will be with Cosworth but in the first instance teams are requested to make their intentions known to my office. Yours sincerely, Max Mosley
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Bernie Wants Standard Engines For 2010 So this means that they will supply engines for those who want them and cant afford to make their own ?
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Bernie Wants Standard Engines For 2010 Here's what autoextremist had to say about it: Quote:
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Bernie Wants Standard Engines For 2010 My official stance... Well considering European slotted races air at 7:50 am in my time zone... I won't be bothering to get up on a Sunday for that. Well considering most other races (Asian, Australia, etc.) are around 2 to 4 am in my time zone... I won't be bothering to stay up that late to watch them! So i guess this leaves my home race... so I will bother to only watch the Canadian GP in 2009! ... oh wait, there will not be a Canadian GP anymore! ![]() Thank you Max and Bernie for killing F1 for me.
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