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View Poll Results: Of current drivers, who would you build a winning team around?
Fernando Alonso 13 28.89%
Kimi Raikkonen 15 33.33%
Lewis Hamilton 9 20.00%
Felipe Massa 2 4.44%
Bob Kubica 5 11.11%
Jenson Button 1 2.22%
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:55 PM   #1
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The best driver to build a winning team around

Wanted to ask this for a long-time, but haven't had the chance. As many of you know, I always admire the F1 drivers who bring the total package and have the ability to develop their cars. I suppose that is why I got tired of all the Alonso-bashing and started to move closer to Camp Alonso with some of his fans. I really don't like the guys who just drive the cars in the races and do little else on the technical end.

I think the greatest ever at advancing development of a car, building, motivating and sustaining a team is without doubt Schumacher. What about current drivers? I didn't include some of the old guys like Fisico, Coulthard, Rubens. I wanted younger drivers that can stay within the team for 6, 7, 8-years.

After this season and the problems he had with his team, I wonder if Alonso would still win the poll. Alain Prost was a great driver, The Professor, but he reputedly had team issues with Mclaren and Ferrari.

** For this poll assume you have the budget of Toyota and can afford anyone on the list without having to make cutbacks elsewhere! **
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Re: The best driver to build a winning team around

Fernando hands down..he can lift a whole team
and for now i dont think there is any driver besides him who can do that..
maybe hami..but we dont know that yet.. and i really dont think so..
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Re: The best driver to build a winning team around

To take a gold cup home with the force of one person you obviously need someone with skills, talent, knowledge and tons of experience. Alonso clearly has the whole 9.
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Re: The best driver to build a winning team around

I would pick Kubica (not only because his Polish), but I admire his persistence and ability of recover especially after his accident in Montreal.
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Re: The best driver to build a winning team around

Alonso for sure, he's proven. But he's also a proven team wrecker.
Kimi and Kubica would also be good candidates.
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Fernando hands down..he can lift a whole team
and for now i dont think there is any driver besides him who can do that..

Agreed.
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I think the greatest ever at advancing development of a car, building, motivating and sustaining a team is without doubt Schumacher.

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Alain Prost was a great driver, The Professor, but he reputedly had team issues with Mclaren and Ferrari.

The great Fangio had problems with both Ferrari and Maserati. And before WWII the great Nuvolari had problems with Alfa Romeo.

In more recent times, Niki Lauda, also a package, had problems with Ferrari and McLaren just like Prost.

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At that press conference Ron Dennis wasn't invited, because Lauda was sick of him. But McRon showed up anyway, and preceded to tell the press that Lauda should be thanking his lucky stars he got to drive for McLaren. Lauda told him he better shut up or he was going to have an enemy for life.

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^ Just who the hell voted for Kubica ?!
It's Heidfeld who's the main car developer.
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I would pick Kubica (not only because his Polish), but I admire his persistence and ability of recover especially after hilarious accident in Montreal.

And just what does this have to do with being a total package and having the ability to develop the car ?!
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^ Just who the hell voted for Kubica ?!
It's Heidfeld who's the main car developer.
I haven't voted at all but I don't know anything that makes Heidfeld the developer, what I do know is that Kubica has the skill and knowledge to develop a car. So I understand the one who voted for him.
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