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I see your point, but it's not just his attitude towards his teamates that bothers me. When things go wrong, he tends to bitch and moan instead of shutting up and letting his driving do the talking. He's got talent and he is a setup wizard but I guess I just don't like his general attitude.

He has does the same at Mclaren. After the loss in Brazil he said all sort of crap about the team to the press blaming them for loosing the WDC. Very immature, he clearly needs to learn to keep him mouth shut.

Words I haven't heard or read. But I trust you for it.

The Swedish F1 commentators. And if you watched the Chinese GP training you could hear him talking to his engineers. He knows exactly what needs to be done with the car for him to drive fast.

Fred has been doing this since the start of the season, not just Brazil. but for once, i gotta admit, he's right. i think, if Mclaren got behind Alonso a 100%, the WDC will surely be his now.

i doubt he'll make the mistake like HAmmi made in China, and in Brazil. but then again, he did make mistakes in Japan, Spain and in Canada. oh well...who cares anyways, Kimi is the best this season

Same goes for a lot other WDCs.
Masell always complained, Piquet complained during his Williams period, Senna vetoed Warwick at Lotus complaining there can't be 2 stars at one team, Prost vetoed Senna and Mansell and both then complained about Prost as being political @$*hole just because they were pist for not being no.1 at Williams in 93.
and it goes on and on and on ...





Robert for all virtues doesn't the have the 3 years yet.

I know Kubica is a worker, but this doesn't that he's still too young and unexperienced.

Yeah, he made tons of mistakes not only that, but he got beaten fair and square. He has absolutely no right to blame Mclaren for him not winning the WDC.

Just look at the Kimi and how tough he had it with the car during the first half of the season, but yet he didn't say crap about his team to the press.

I just don't like when people go against their team after a loss. It's very ugly and shows that you lack team integrity.

I haven't seen anyone disputing that Alonso would be three-time WDC in three consecutive seasons and with two different teams if he was the 100% No. 1 driver that had all the perks No. 1 drivers get.

What was the mistake that Hamy made in China? Him beaching it in the gravel hasn't really been called his mistake, has it? Nothing has been called his mistake. That is just so peculiar. Why did his tyres become virtually undriveable? Alonso and Kimi both came in later than Hamy, but some people have insisted that Hamy has smoother driving than Prost. What actually went wrong with his tyres in China?

But the talent of those men compensated for their personalities. I think Alonso is easily as talented and Nige and Piquet as a race driver and is a better technical package. People talk about Nige's bravery and great passing, but let us nothing forget how many stupid incidents he has been in. Alonso's ability easily compensates in my opinion.

Every driver has something that triggers their bad attitude. For Alonso I think many people in F1 observe it to be getting beat by a teammate. Why not just give him a solid lapdog No. 2 and a long-term contract? Then the trigger won't get pulled. That is how championships are won.

Well yes, but to do that like Fangio, he would have needed to have no.1 status like Fangio.

In 1956 Fangio was fighting with Moss for the championship. Fangio was out of the race at one point, but Ferrari team mate Peter Collins came to the pit and gave Fangio his car as was expected (team orders) of a no.2 driver vs. the no.1 at a team and it was allowed by regulations. Fangio continued the race and took points, and it was enough to win his 4th WDC and 3rd in a row. Fangio remained a greatfull friend to Collins for that. A people these days found the Schumacher - Barrichello Austrian GP incident as outrageous.
Now some said in 1956 that Moss was the true winner of the WDC, and by today's regulations witch theoretically bans team orders and bans the car switch-and-continue scenario they would be right.
But today people just now Fangio 5 WDCs, Moss 0 WDCs.




That is just a myth created by Brundle's nonsense video.
To begin with the hard lock on the Renault was used before by Bruce McLaren, Jochen Rindt and Emerson Fittipladi to force induce oversteer not understeer as Brundle said.
Even more the early corner entry is a trademark and recommendation of Jim Clark.
Brundle didn't understood things because Alonso used both understeer and oversteer, much like Herbert didn't understood Schumacher's driving style.
And Brundle himself now changed his mis mind after seeing Alonso driving the McLaren.
Alonso simply adapts to extract from the car, meaning he can be smooth or aggressive, understeering or oversteering depending on the car/tires/scenario.
That's something that Brundle finally saw and said so this year.




I agree. But Alonso isn't a british/tabloid press darling.
Even before coming to McLaren, he's made a lot of "enemies"/anti-fans for beating McLaren and Ferrari, the oldest and most successful teams in F1. And
it was the Raikkonen/McLaren duo who was seen/supposed to end the Schumacher/Ferrari reign.

i've always thought the China race costed Hammi the title. his arrogance was just too high at that race. as for Alonso, i'm happy that he's not a 3 time WDC in a row. there's only 2 people in the history of the sport that amde it 3 times in a row - Fangio and MS.

took almost 50 years later to equal a great of Fangio. i hope it'll take another 10-20 years before we see something like that