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The Artist · 02-10-2007, 08:56 AM

^wow thnx for posting man
that clears up the matter pretty much

Imhotep Evil · 02-10-2007, 09:24 AM

No problem.

He, like Massa of Ferrari, and even some Renault boys, also sees BMW as a raising force, perhaps capable of winning races.

Also it was shown what the McMerc needed to improve upon:
- more grip on front
- more power from the engine

shonguiz · 02-10-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

No problem.

and even some Renault boys

Like who ??

Quote:

- more power from the engine

Stars suck.

Imhotep Evil · 02-10-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shonguiz

Like who ??

I belive Bob Bell Renault chassis designer.

[/quote]Stars suck.

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The MB engine of 2006 wasn't up there with the top 3 : Renault/Ferrari and BMW.
So this might be the case till the switch to the turbos.

bum-man · 02-10-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

The MB engine of 2006 wasn't up there with the top 3 : Renault/Ferrari and BMW.
So this might be the case till the switch to the turbos.

If I'm not mistaken Merc's engine was one of the only manufacturer to have their engines regularly hit 20k, Cosworth was the only other but they always broke. Now with the rule change (19k) limit they are forced to redesign for better torque application rather than peak power (what they they had last season).

Imhotep Evil · 02-10-2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bum-man

If I'm not mistaken Merc's engine was one of the only manufacturer to have their engines regularly hit 20k, Cosworth was the only other but they always broke. Now with the rule change (19k) limit they are forced to redesign for better torque application rather than peak power (what they they had last season).

To my knowledge the engine was the weak part of MB.
The revers of the 06 season to, my knowledge, were the Ferrari and BMW.

bum-man · 02-10-2007, 09:49 PM

http://formula-1.updatesport.com/new...rier/view.html

Cosworth and MercedesHighPerformanceEngines Ltd. were the only engines as far as I know that cracked 20k in quali trim. It was the poor aero and cooling that hurt the McMerc the past season.

shonguiz · 02-11-2007, 05:06 AM

According to the offical F1 site, the 3 tops engine were BMW/FERRARI/RENAULT.

Imhotep Evil · 02-11-2007, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shonguiz

According to the offical F1 site, the 3 tops engine were BMW/FERRARI/RENAULT.

Yep that's were I got my info. I belive they made a bit of a review for evry engine.

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Originally Posted by formula1.com

Engine analysis - BMW P86

With the 2006 introduction of the 2.4 litre V8 rule, this engine was built from scratch, with its development then phased into three steps over the season. The aim was to start with a solid foundation and then gradually raise the revs. Specific figures for peak power and revs were not revealed, but the P86 was certainly very capable of high rpm. By the end of the year was generally considered the third most powerful engine, just behind Renault and Ferrari. The 20,000 rpm barrier was certainly broken, the optimum probably closer to 21,000

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