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Old 10-19-2005, 09:34 AM   #1
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Is Ferrari switching to 4WD?

Ferrari builds a 4x4

Ferrari is developing a part-time four-wheel-drive system, which could be used on front-engined models, such as the 612 Scaglietti and forthcoming V12-powered 600, as well as the Maserati Quattroporte and Coupé. The set-up also combines all-wheel drive and a transaxle layout for the first time.

Revealed in this patent drawing (right), the new system is exceptionally compact and simpler than rival 4x4 systems based on a rear-drive layout. A constant velocity joint and oil bath clutch - which sends drive to the front wheels - are encased on the end of the engine block.

However, the system will not be full-time but instead will act as sophisticated traction control in poor conditions.

In third gear — when the car is most likely to skid — drive is sent to the front wheels when sensors detect a slide. In higher gears, the system is limited to 20-30-second bursts of 4x4 traction to stop overheating. A launch date has not yet been revealed.


Source: http://www.autocar.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=217390
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Old 10-19-2005, 09:46 AM   #2
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Re: Is Ferrari switching to 4WD?

I'm sure this is for 365 days motoring, and not for performance!
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:11 AM   #3
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Re: Is Ferrari switching to 4WD?

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Ferrari builds a 4x4

Ferrari is developing a part-time four-wheel-drive system, which could be used on front-engined models, such as the 612 Scaglietti and forthcoming V12-powered 600, as well as the Maserati Quattroporte and Coupé. The set-up also combines all-wheel drive and a transaxle layout for the first time.

Revealed in this patent drawing (right), the new system is exceptionally compact and simpler than rival 4x4 systems based on a rear-drive layout. A constant velocity joint and oil bath clutch - which sends drive to the front wheels - are encased on the end of the engine block.

However, the system will not be full-time but instead will act as sophisticated traction control in poor conditions.

In third gear — when the car is most likely to skid — drive is sent to the front wheels when sensors detect a slide. In higher gears, the system is limited to 20-30-second bursts of 4x4 traction to stop overheating. A launch date has not yet been revealed.


Source: http://www.autocar.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=217390
the key is that it's going to have to be light. But then again, Porsche and Lambo are doing it already so I'm sure Ferrari will have studied it properly.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:10 AM   #4
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Ferrari develop "insertable" four wheel drive
11.10.2006


Ferrari have developed a new optional four-wheel drive system, dubbed as "insertable 4x4", which is designed to maximise the performance capability of their sports cars under all conditions. This latest project follows on from an 'adaptable' four-wheel drive system that was developed in Maranello last year and clearly demonstrates again that Ferrari are looking very closely at this form of traction.

The new insertable four-wheel system seeks to remove the disadvantages of a permanent four-wheel drive arrangement, particularly the loss of engine torque associated with it, by using a system that can be taken out of the equation as required. However Ferrari's engineers have worked hard to remove the obstacles in the way of an optional four-wheel drive system and create a set-up "which is easy and cost effective to implement, free from the drawbacks described above and which at the same time allows for an increase in performance, stability and traction control in all grip conditions."

"Currently, a sporty, high performance car presents rear wheel drive and is provided with a self-locking differential aiming at maximising motive torque transmitted by the rear wheels to the road surface in all conditions," say Ferrari. "Rear wheel drive with self-locking differential is a premium for sporty driving in either optimal grip conditions (dry road) or reasonable grip conditions (wet road); however, such a solution in combination with a high motive torque and large-sized tyres entails very difficult and potentially dangerous driving in poor grip conditions (flooded or icy road).

"The use of permanent or insertable for wheel drive has been proposed in order to improve the driveability of a sports car in poor grip conditions. Whilst permanent four wheel drive considerably improves the behaviour of motor vehicles in poor grip conditions, it presents the drawback of increasing loss of torque in the transmission system and conferring to the car a behaviour in optimal grip conditions which is not always appreciated by drivers.

"Insertable four wheel drive allows the driver to decide whether to use rear-wheel drive or four-wheel drive; in this way, the drive may use rear-wheel drive in optimal grip conditions and four-wheel drive in poor grip conditions. However, insertable four-wheel drive is typically complex and costly to manufacture; furthermore, the driver may not realise the presence of sheets of ice on the road and may not therefore engage four-wheel drive in a timely manner.

Ferrari's new insertable four-wheel drive system is based on the traditional RWD layout, where the main driving wheels are constantly connected to the engine via the usual gearbox and clutch arrangement. The second pair of wheels are selectively connected via their new insertable transmission system. "The insertable transmission system presents a second clutch, which on one end is connected with fixed transmission ratios to the crankshaft upstream of the gearbox and on the other is connected with fixed transmission ratios to the secondary driving wheels," say Ferrari. The insertable transmission system also transfers motive torque to the front wheels when a difference between the rotation speed of the front and rear wheels occurs; ie, essentially when the driving wheels slip".

Technically, the secondary clutch, which controls the provision of torque to the front wheels, is controlled by an electronic control unit. Factors such as the vehicle's "longitudinal speed", "longitudinal acceleration", "transversal acceleration", and accelerator pedal position and movement characteristics, are taken into account as input for the the electronic control unit. The electronic control system has also been engineered to include memory units, called "maps", where parameters describing the vehicle's dynamic characteristics can be stored, each of them optimised for different grip conditions.

Ferrari's new insertable four-wheel-drive system, which has been road-tested, can both be used for their usual mid-engine cars, as well as the front-engine cars with transaxle layout.

Source: Italiaspeed
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Re: Ferrari develops new 4WD system

The day that hell froze over.

Next up, diesel FWD Ferraris.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:42 AM   #6
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Re: Ferrari develops new 4WD system

AWD on a Lamborghini is ok, but a Ferrrari, Pagani... No.

Great post though!
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Re: Ferrari develops new 4WD system

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"Rear wheel drive with self-locking differential is a premium for sporty driving in either optimal grip conditions (dry road) or reasonable grip conditions (wet road); however, such a solution in combination with a high motive torque and large-sized tyres entails very difficult and potentially dangerous driving in poor grip conditions (flooded or icy road).
How many Ferrari owners drive when it is even raining outside and not even talking about ice? I bet nobody. Nice thinking Ferrari.

Hoop, there goes the fun.
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:32 PM   #8
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Re: Ferrari develops new 4WD system

OMG, the 599 looks so hot in that picture

Ferrari 4wd... Very interesting.

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Re: Ferrari develops new 4WD system

Ive been wanting audi to make such a system foir freakin ages, I dont know what the hell their weigthting for. If they want to destroy BMW they have to make their quattro more advanced so its only 4wd when needed and RWD under good conditions.
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Re: Ferrari develops new 4WD system

Ferrari produces pure sports cars and offering four wheel drive would kill some of the brand image. I would never buy a Ferrari with AWD. If the offer it i hope that it won't be standard for any of their future cars, it should be a strict option.
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