German Car Zone

Well just because the red message is in the IC does not mean it was the cause of the accident. If there was any damage to the SBC system or electrical system that message would come up.

It's a good thing we got a fact-lift run out model of the W211. No more SBC.

This isn't a failure. SBC is supposed to work for a limited time (approx 70k km.) and then be replaced. That's why MB gives lifetime warranty for it.

Wimmer's car and Ree's car has both gone over 70k km without any problems, I think they didn't replace their SBC either.

What are you trying to say???

You have any source? I guess no...

SBC is supposed to last as long as the vehicle does.

And furthermore, I velieve that given the much more powerful pump, it allows the ESP to last as long too (an average ESP system cannot work too long; generally it is designed to last 300.000kms with an average use, the pump has to be replaced earlier if the ESP is heavily used and later if not so used. It means the big majority of cars will never need a replacement as either the ESP is not too used, or the car doesn't go as far as 300.000++ kms).

The SBC has no such limitations, and some W211 E-Classes have 600.000kms and the first SBC system.

I believe that official Mercedes-Benz dealer is a pretty good source smth tells me they know more than you

As i said approximate 70k. Could be more or less. It depends on how you use brakes

Sbc is supposed to be changed for free. I've done that a few months ago, and it cost me nothing (2004 e-class - that means no general warranty)

Could you post a source, an official statement about this? if yes, you have all my sincerest apologies.

It's just that it seems highly suspicious fo MB to sell a car whose brake system has to be changed every 70k kms!!

If it proves right, I'll definitely consider the pre-FL W211, Maybach, SLR and pre-FL SL to be cars I will never ever intend to buy regardless of their price. It is an idea I just cannot live with that something like the braking system has such a limited lifetime.

But I really don't think it is true, I've never heard of that. Would be a shame.

MB did not build a braking system that is only going to last 70K kms and if you think that...
warranty in the US on the SBC system is ten year 100K miles.

The newer (mainly software) and pumps are designed to last longer than the first ones.

The dealer might know more than me, but not much

I reckon they haven't made any statements about it.

You don't have to change the braking system, sbc itself is a 10-20cm. electronic box. Whole procedure takes couple hours (service should get confirmation from germans)

Don't you find highly suspicious that MB were making cars which were braking down several dozen times a year (w220,w163 etc)?