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Old 07-10-2008, 10:38 AM   #571
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AFAIK, the SL 55 had 476hp like the E55 W211, and after some time both were upgraded to 500hp.
E55 never had more than 476hp,the SL55 at first had those numbers but then it had a power boost to 525hp with the first FL in 07.

As for the next E AMG lets just wait and see i'm sure the mad boys at AMG won't disappoint us
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:07 AM   #572
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Re: New W212 E-Class Sedan & Estate Thread II (Spy pics & info)

At least in French "cv", for Chevaux-Vapeur, both SL and E started with 476, then were quickly upgraded to 500 (without any face-lift), and only after that did the SL get the face-lift and thus a power increase to 525.

Concerning the E63: the RS6 has 580 for now. The next M5 is rumoured to 550. Do you think AMG will be happy to offer, in two years (AMGs always come a bit later), the weakest car of the trio, maybe even with a Lexus, Cadillac and Jaguar boosting more HP?

No way it would happen. Next E63 will get at least 560hp for me. AMG may not always be the most powerful, they never are the weakest. Here they will let the RS6 at the top, its insane weights cutting the power advantage, but no way they'd let the M5 be more powerful.

Furthermore, the 500 V8 could have more than 400hp with DI and some updates, and that the E63 could be the last "standard" car with the 63.

I don't believe AMG will let the E become the weakest. It won't happen.
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Re: New W212 E-Class Sedan & Estate Thread II (Spy pics & info)

Just a side note
AMG had 2 orange CLK DTM test cars..
Do you guys remember them?
One of them has a 63 engine..
and it has 580hp NA

So i guess the engine still has potentiall without FI

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Re: New W212 E-Class Sedan & Estate Thread II (Spy pics & info)

yeah they renamed it P800 or something rather
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Re: New W212 E-Class Sedan & Estate Thread II (Spy pics & info)

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Concerning the E63: the RS6 has 580 for now. The next M5 is rumoured to 550. Do you think AMG will be happy to offer, in two years (AMGs always come a bit later), the weakest car of the trio, maybe even with a Lexus, Cadillac and Jaguar boosting more HP?
Next M5 is 3-3.5 years away so if Mercedes was to introduce to give the new E63 a power bump it would be 2 years later after launch making it fall right in line with the new M5. And the M5 is the E63s one and only competitor. MB could careless about the RS6 since it's even outsold by the Cayenne Turbo.

As for Cadillac and what they are doing they aren't too high of a concern since the number of top end performance sedans they sell on international scale is very small. So with that being said MB's focus is on the 5er and the M5. The E60 M5 is going to be around until 2011 when it will be replaced during that time it will live in harmony next to a 507-520hp E63 until it gets a revised engine in 2011 as well.
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Double fogs!







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Now watch tuners install triple fogs.
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NO, NO, PLEASE! Let it to Brabus...
It's only camo for sure...

Why would they ruin what appears to be a gorgeous-looking car with moronic double-fogs??
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Re: New W212 E-Class Sedan & Estate Thread II (Spy pics & info)

omg...I'm laughing my a$$ off......these double fogs look just terrible...

Has to be fake....has to be!

Edit, it's fake!!! I can see LED light strips here!!!!





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It's fake for sure,MB will never do this,the E got LEDs for sure
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