New W212 E-Class Sedan & Estate Thread II (Spy pics & info)

[RBP]

The new E looks good so far and MB will sell a bunch of them.

With the current E class coming out as the best in initial quality (JD Power) and Mercedes-Benz doing very well overall, the days of Mercedes-Benz being a very GOOD luxury car may be coming back.

Hopefully BMW and Mercedes are taking notes from the Lexus playbook that says if you charge a bunch of money for your cars, they had better also be very good cars. I can't believe that much money is spent on cars that are essentially crap but have a pretty badge on the hood.

[SDNR]

Originally Posted by Mr Mercedes

the average consumer they will draw similarities to the w124 etc. And that is exactly what MB is intending. Offcourse with a healthy dose of additional 'styling'.

^Do you think this is what Mercedes intends? ...you make me think.

Mercedes stated in 2005 that it has a "new design idiom" that emphasizes "clarity of expression" ....this refers to the wide expanses of clean surfaces and the obvious expression of speed through the dynamic character lines. They also mentioned that the designers are guided by "principles of purism", the absence of superfluous styling ....and a focus on "form follows function" . They are claiming to remain true to the tenets of German Industrial Modernism as has been the tradition at Mercedes-Benz.

Sacco was far more programmatic with his approach to Modern/Rationalist design. Under Pfeiffer/Wagener, Mercedes has extended the concept of Rational design to encompass more dynamic and expressive elements. There is nothing wrong with this ...but I do feel that the direct "quotation" of historical elements for purely cosmetic reasons is ever-so-slightly disingenuous ...but [to be fair] even Sacco (and his team) occasionally "quoted" historical Mercedes details ...they just were not so obvious.

My personal preference would be for much more forward-looking designs, reinventing car design for the 21st century ....but I guess they do have to deal with the realities of the market.

[klier]

Originally Posted by Mr. Mercedes

No more so then the BMW marketing BS spewed all over this board.

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Please give me a break, what a BS.

I agree that the car looks a bit like the W124, but please, leave BMW out of this will ya. I don´t want to start something here.

[justanthony]

Wow.

[tennmb]

Looks like we are at the final wrapping. Those last pics look great. The current E is so good. Solid, smooth, luxurious, etc. This next car looks a little roomier. It seems the cabin volume will be much increases with the more square A and C pillars. I'm glad they didn't do anything too radical for the E. It inherits a lot of the angular design language from the C, yet still will look distinct with the quad lights and the rear fender treatment.

FWIW, I don't see the 124 in it. It looks more like they took the current E and injected the newer design language we see in the C and GLK.

[GTA8.5]

Originally Posted by SDNR

That sounds a lot like marketing BS Carlton.

This new E class is clearly an assemblage of many styling themes (mostly conceived under Pfeiffer) we have seen on various MB vehicles in the past few years.

A homage to the W124??? ....give me a break

Spare me the sarcasm Rob. You and I used to have productive discussions about designs and there themes. Lately, It seems you have changed. You draw conclusions way too quickly without looking at the overall aspect and meaning in design language.


Im sure we are all aware that this new E-Class possesses an assemblage
of newer MB designs which is quit obvious but I would still call it an abstract form of the W124 E from what Im seeing so far....

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Even one of our favirite designers Bruno Sacco used abstract forms.
For example he stated that he wanted the W220 S-Class headlight design to be and abstract form of the W210 E-Class headlight design. Designers use abstract forms all the time.

[Jng]

There was something in the W124 that Mercedes should bring back. That car's feeling of quality was superior to any competitor. The styling inside and outside was just good, but the feeling was absolutely impressive.

Now Mercedes offers more features for your money, but I miss that superior feeling.

[GTA8.5]

Originally Posted by klier

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Please give me a break, what a BS.

I agree that the car looks a bit like the W124, but please, leave BMW out of this will ya. I don´t want to start something here.

lOl!! I just happened to glance at this post before going to the show and laughed all the way

Take a chill pill buddy!


It seems like retro is taking on a new theme. Look how BMW brought back the Cab-back look to the new 7er and the Shark nose. Those are classic designs.
The newer German cars are possessing abstact themes of older models. (Well I bought BMW in the picture lolz)

[Fahad_Talal]

Someone have news ?

[ree]

Originally Posted by Fahad_Talal

Someone have news ?

Nothing new at the moment…sorry.