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Old 08-18-2007, 12:01 PM   #331
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But that makes no sense... Why to have the shifter situated in completely different place in auto-models?
Do you want shift "column shift style"? I don't.

It makes sense for an automatic transmission, especially when you can probably manually shift gears using buttons behind the 'wheel. For a manual, placing it in the center console makes more sense.

Remember, I am guessing here.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:04 PM   #332
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

Nice video, Deutsch.

And it sounds like a manual transmission!
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:20 PM   #333
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

It really sounds like a manual transmission...this would be awesome... A Mercedes with more then 500 hp and manual transmission...
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:27 PM   #334
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

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But that makes no sense... Why to have the shifter situated in completely different place in auto-models?
I can see your point: why having two different shifters, in two different places, for the same car, only depending of the gearbox?
I've rarely seen that. The S or ML have colums shifter, because there are not MT available, whereas the C-Class has normal shifter, for auto and MT (event if it is a "fake" shifter for the auto, because fully electronically controlled).

How can Mercdedes justify the two solutions for the same car? It forces them to developp two center consoles, and so one....

On the other side, the 3 series has also two different interiors (idrive or not), and for exemple the ML, GL and ML (the S also I think) have a US-center console with big cupholders whereas the European versions have different ones...

So, why not? It allows the automatics to have more space, supplementar glove-box!
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:09 PM   #335
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

Sounds like a SMG/DSG to me. You can hear the gearchanges and the gas still 100%
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:11 PM   #336
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

^yep thats what i thought as well..does not sound like a MT..
and def not a AT
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

Perhaps its the new electromagnetic something or other gearbox mercedes benz is supposedly developing??? sure sounds like something crazy????
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:23 PM   #338
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

LOL, it sounds just like my car ...Im being honest ..
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:47 AM   #339
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

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Do you want shift "column shift style"? I don't.

It makes sense for an automatic transmission, especially when you can probably manually shift gears using buttons behind the 'wheel. For a manual, placing it in the center console makes more sense.

Remember, I am guessing here.
Actually, my question was more about the economical aspect. Is the low demand for manual gearboxes in the E-Class enough to justify the two different setups?
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:56 AM   #340
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

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Is the low demand for manual gearboxes in the E-Class enough to justify the two different setups?
Very important issue, IMO.

Except MB are developing manual (or even DCT) for E63 AMG, then shifter in the center tunnel can be easily applied to other models as well, while auto shifter can be mounted to the steering column.




Then another question appears: is it really economical to move the shifter to the steering column, and not applying some space-saving "e-shifter" ala BMW (X5, 5er, 6er etc) or Jaguar (XF) in the central tunnel where manual shifter usually sits?

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