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Re: Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe - 01-14-2007, 08:10 AM

iget the feeling you are talking about, but ti all falls down to 2 things

1- the ambaience can easily be reduced 90% to the clever lighting, red inserts, creme leather, beige shadows, and reddish carpets sued in the old corniche, the effect of these is great and decadent

2-as for the general design of the interior, it is true some brittish decadence has been lost, like the long swooping curves behind the doors, offering a "special" seating position, btu keeping in mind that is to reinforce structural integrity to keep a rolls ride in a company that didn't have the ability to engineer a car for it's time, until now.

another aspect is the switchhgear, the old corniche defiantly showed everything, whatever little there was, again keeping in mind the tech limits of rolls at that time, wheras drum roll brakes were still a go in 1992 or something as specified above. as for the PDC, well it takes littl pride in tech, well it has ominously hidden eevrything, up to the kitchen sink (which it now has) in a thousand popping folding compartments.

i have argued for this point in the past, in MM vs RR, whereas too much relaince on apaprent tech loses the pure luxury and decadence appeal of such a car and prints upon it a ti me stamp.
i am still all for such a point, the corniche managed to escape it's consequences, because what it offered was already too little by any standrds, and contributed well to that feel of brittish eccentricity. this feel has been slightly hiddena nd toned ddown, contributing more to the classicism and extratemporal appeal of such a car, but lowering 1% brittishness.

i have to agree at the end that this car has lost say 10% of that general brittish quirquiness and eccentricty at the expense of a more cohesive, more current, more stately, more tech (but hideen), and surely although it may be seen as blasphemy, cost reduction.

those little details some will alment, we are all byproducts of the lacks of RR in manufacturing, but even in the acks, they were brilliant andmanaged to turn a lack of understanding in torsional rigidty and chassis flex, into a magnificient swooping curve that cozied up and wrapped around rear occupents.

the spaces for such lacks have been daramaticallu cut short by the BMW ownership, but stay sure that RR is true to itself, anf whever something will come at lack, it will get the most decadent of solutions
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Re: Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe - 01-14-2007, 08:31 AM

Much of what you said is true ...but don't assume Rolls-Royce has had an aversion to new technology ....they have always embraced new technology in their vehicles ....but there have been some curious idiosyncrasies.

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iget the feeling you are talking about, but ti all falls down to 2 things

1- the ambaience can easily be reduced 90% to the clever lighting, red inserts, creme leather, beige shadows, and reddish carpets sued in the old corniche, the effect of these is great and decadent
I understand precisely what you are saying ...but, without wanting to sound too arrogant, I am capable of looking beyond the colour scheme ...I am very analytical about such matters. The ambiance of the new car is greatly different from most post-war Rolls-Royces. Its character has more in common with the open-top Rolls-Royce Coupés of the 1920s.

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Re: Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe - 01-14-2007, 08:40 AM

i never talked about aversion to new tech, i talked about inability of introducing it in many cases due to cost, or lack of engineering skills.

i fall short in anceint rolls history, i would love tor esearch 1920's rolls amongst others, but for now i have a more pressing history term paper, i willl take your word for it now
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Re: Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe - 01-14-2007, 08:48 AM

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i fall short in anceint rolls history, i would love tor esearch 1920's rolls amongst others, but for now i have a more pressing history term paper, i willl take your word for it now
Well back in the 1920s, Rolls-Royce Coupés were quite sporty and more youthful than the classic Rolls-Royces from the 1950s etc.

With this Boattail Silver Ghost from 1924 ...we can clearly see where the designers got the inspiration for the nautical theme of the Phantom DHC.
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Re: Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe - 01-14-2007, 08:50 AM

i get the idea, and yes i do agree.
wedsnday i will have time to look more deeply into these things
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Re: Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe - 01-14-2007, 03:28 PM

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i never talked about aversion to new tech, i talked about inability of introducing it in many cases due to cost, or lack of engineering skills.
Mind that RR nowdays when being under BMW umbrella depends on the tech introduced in top-end BMW models: eg. Z8 alu space frame & 7er chassis & electronics. It's the same case with Bentley (using VAG's top tech), as it is with Maybach (depends on Mercedes-Benz tech).

So, RR Phantom (and PDC, and future PC) is based on E65/6 7er tech, while the new baby Rolls (Silver *******, Corniche cabrio, possible Camargue coupe) will be based on a new BMW large platform (F01/2 7er etc) , also incorporating new tech from F01/2.

That will be possible as baby Rolls line will be positioned as more youthful, modern & even futuristic interpretation of Rolls-Royce.

BMW have a very clear vision what to do with RR in the future (unlike MB with Maybach). One of the main points is that the brand will stay highly exclusive, and will not compete with Bentley (lower prices & higher sales).

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Re: Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe - 01-14-2007, 03:33 PM

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Well back in the 1920s, Rolls-Royce Coupés were quite sporty and more youthful than the classic Rolls-Royces from the 1950s etc.

With this Boattail Silver Ghost from 1924 ...we can clearly see where the designers got the inspiration for the nautical theme of the Phantom DHC.
Hey Rob that is an awsome car, do you have any more info on it or a site where i can find pictures and stuff on it and other old rolls royces? Thanks man its always fun reading your posts comparing new cars to the older ones that i know very little about.
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Re: Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe - 01-14-2007, 10:41 PM

Hey audi-rudy, I posted some information Here. I am sorry I have not got more pictures.
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Re: Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe - 01-14-2007, 10:46 PM

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Hey audi-rudy, I posted some information Here. I am sorry I have not got more pictures.
THanks Rob
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Re: Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe - 01-25-2007, 08:25 AM

I think I love this car for real:









Who would have thunk it, me going ga ga over a Rolls Royce!

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