CLK63 AMG Black Series! - Page 11

bum-man · **Re: CLK63 AMG Black Series! -** 10-14-2006, 05:53 PM

HAHA! The truth hurts...
BTW I stopped reading right when you claimed the V10 revvs to 10k rpm.

Imhotep Evil · **Re: CLK63 AMG Black Series! -** 10-14-2006, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bum-man

HAHA! The truth hurts...
BTW I stopped reading right when you claimed the V10 revvs to 10k rpm.

Sorry to disapoint you, but it does rev. to 10k RPMs (and beyond, but 10000 is safe), it's just that it's limited to 8250 rpm.

That comes from BMW AG and was comfirmed by people who have derestricted M5 and M6 cars.

Sunny · **Re: CLK63 AMG Black Series! -** 10-14-2006, 06:29 PM

Check out mbworld forums. The 63 engine is not making anywhere near the claimed 500+hp. All the dynos have been along 370 -380 whp which doesn't translate to 500bhp.

bum-man · **Re: CLK63 AMG Black Series! -** 10-14-2006, 06:40 PM

Already did.

The fact that the engine wasn't fully broken in and given the humidity/heat speaks worlds about it.
- ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER

PC Valkyrie · **Re: CLK63 AMG Black Series! -** 10-15-2006, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

To PC Valkyrie and bum-man

OMG, what is this BS ?!
Has this becomed the bash_the_S85 - praise_the_V8 tread ?!

Whatever you say, Imhotep Evil.......If you think the stuff I've posted is BS, then your biases are truly blinding you to even the possibility that Mercedes/AMG can build a technically advanced engine.

I am not bashing the 5.0L V10. But I was trying to convince you that the 6.2L V8 is pretty damn good too, but you just refuse to acknowledge any of that. I think the only thing you will accept is the notion that BMW M engines must be better than anything AMG can ever make.

Imhotep Evil · 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie

Whatever you say, Imhotep Evil.......If you think the stuff I've posted is BS, then your biases are truly blinding you to even the possibility that Mercedes/AMG can build a technically advanced engine.

I am not bashing the 5.0L V10. But I was trying to convince you that the 6.2L V8 is pretty damn good too, but you just refuse to acknowledge any of that. I think the only thing you will accept is the notion that BMW M engines must be better than anything AMG can ever make.

I've never claimed that the V8 is crap or anything. I think it's a great engine, but I do not belive that the S85 is shamed by it either (that was my point BTW, not that the V8 is crap or that AMG can't build an advanced engine).

But for the claims that the V8 in the M5, M6 makes for better cars I find that bogus.

And nobody seems to understand the S85 - SMG III relationship (and how it compensate for the lower torque and greater weight).

Just_me · **Re: CLK63 AMG Black Series! -** 10-15-2006, 06:11 AM

Whats up with all the fuss here? Maybe its time to chill out

Merc1 · **Re: CLK63 AMG Black Series! -** 10-15-2006, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

Let me ask you a question.

Consider you're an enthusiats. Now you could chose between a Porsche/BMW M or an AMG B.S. . The Porsche/BMW M have a proven reputation build thru decades, and their car (way) is cheaper, and with some proper tyres (think P Zero Corsas) could offer similar or better performance (on a track at least; think SLK55 B.S.).
Would chose the (cheaper) Porsche/BMW M car or the AMG B.S. ?!
(remember enthusiast, not drag boy or cruiser boy)

I'd choose a Mercedes because I want one, not because someone with a one-track mind dismisses a Mercedes because it isn't superior at the track.

M

Merc1 · **Re: CLK63 AMG Black Series! -** 10-15-2006, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny

Apperntly now even Mazda's are superior on the track. Seriously, I can understand a S or a E class being slower, but, heck, the CLK is a sports coupe.

And apparently they're still crap on the road, and I wouldn't give two lugnuts about a Mazda posting a faster lap time, they're still not 1/2 the car a Mercedes is.

M

Imhotep Evil · **Re: CLK63 AMG Black Series! -** 10-15-2006, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merc1

I'd choose a Mercedes because I want one, not because someone with a one-track mind dismisses a Mercedes because it isn't superior at the track.

M

You don't get the context.

As an enthusiast you're not into MBs, in fact you're suspicious of MBs.
MB AMG has have to come up with something terific on a racetrack too (both performance and involvment/conection), to convince you to chose it over Porsche/BMW M cars.
And if for the for the same or less money the competition gives you something better, than mission failed.