HAHA...

Disaster...

At least the Cayenne was sporty. For a SUV.
This, with a diesel, has nothing Porsche in it. It just shouldn't wear this badge. It's a shame. Just pisses me off, these things.

Why doing that? Why? This thing does not look like a Porsche, is available with a weak VW petrol-V6, and now with an Audi diesel-V6... This is a shame. I hate it. I hate this idea.

A hybrid, why not. Put a ridiculous 20kw electrical motor, a green or blue badge, and let the V8 and tyres scream.

But this?? My God...

There's going to be shift in trends the coming years. Environmental friendliness and fuel consumption is become more and more important, especially as cities like London want to increase congestion charges for gas guzzling cars.

PAG is going where the money is at, which is why the corporation is so damn rich.

I think Porsche is beginning to be a bit too...short-term.
The Cayenne, imo, did no good to the image.
The V6 is a crap, but few knows him.
However, a tractor-Porsche...it's too much.

For me, Cayenne + diesel= too much.

Bye Porsche, I'll stay with 2.7RS and 930. I don't want all your crappy marketing cash-machines.

A company telling about sport, race, spirit, and putting a diesel in the already worst-looking premium SUV on the market... No thanks.

Too bad...But I think I'm done with recent Porsches. The 911 was better alone. Now it's surrounded, and the spirit is gone.

Porsche has grown from a small low volume manufacturer to a small giant. Ferdinand Piech is all about cash these days, economics of scale is what interest him and VAG. A bit corrupted by size, money..........and ego

At this stage the movement is unstoppable. The shareholders are happy, profits are peaking, the CEO is anxious, the customers are satisfied and the critics are more than pleased. A company can't be in a better shape than PAG is at the moment.

Porsche should use the Audi V12 turbo diesel.

You mean like this ?!





Well what's wrong with sporty racing diesels ?!
Audi seems to do OK.
I'd love to see a Cayenne diesel going at the 2009 Dakar to recapture for Porsche.

Diesel is getting old. Yes, soon it will be yesterdays news. The demand for diesel is high, so the price is getting up too. Particle filter is getting mandatory which also gets prices up. Future Euro 6 norm requires diesels to have the same nitrogen oxide leves as gasoline, which will require higher tech, again prices go up.

Wasn't it Porsche that said 'fun begins after 4500 rpm'

Yes ojis, I remember Wiedeking saying "pleasure begins at 4500 rpm, this is where the diesel ends"...

And yes, diesel will be more expensive because of pollution... And I'm sorry but a diesel is not sporty. It has no sporty characteristic. It is powerful, but not sporty. This is my problem with Porsche diesel, AMG diesel, R8 diesel...It's ridiculous.

Nice catch the tractor. But it looks way better than a Cayenne, and it is useful. Not a useless SUV with sporty pretention and a big badge to sell it because otherwise everybody would laugh at it.

And racing does not mean pleasure. A F1 is extremely fast and efficient, and extremely awful to drive. Diesel may win races, it is way from beeing as pleasant as petrol in a sportcar.

All in the eye of the beholder, as they say different strokes for different strokes. Racing an F1 car is pleasant for an F1 driver but it feels like sheer torture for an uninitiated.

All I wanted to say is that diesel may be faster, it is not as sporty as petrol.
It just lacks the fun factor, the emotion. it pushes hard, goes fast, but...sound, revving, all what makes a sportcar, is not there in a diesel motor.
Performance does not mean pleasure. A diesel is not at his place in a sportcar for me. I've driven a lot of diesels, never found one that was half as entertaining as a good petrol counterpart. For the sport I mean.

In an E-Class the 320cdi is just perfect. A diesel AMG just doesn"t really make sense. A spory-oriented hybrid can be a much better solution, for me.

For a Porsche it is an heresy. A shame.