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See now this kind of stuff pisses me off, there's no objectivity in this statement whatsoever and goes to show the narrow minded/"negative nancy" mentality a lot of Americans have towards anything premium "with slightly less", be it features, power, whatever. It's not a four pot from some foreign brand other than MB, this is an MB product through and trough. You don't hear the Germans complaining about smaller engines, do you? We need a serious reality check and learn to appreciate the fact that less can indeed be more.

Merc1

If a 4-cylinder C-Class does come back to the U.S. it needs much greater refinement than the previous effort. A turbocharged, not supercharged 4-cylinder, with direct-injection would be the ticket IMO.

M

Gullwing

How about diesels?
1.8 liter that was dumped in 06 was ok if driven hard, the ones that wern't had problems.
I am not sure how the US would react to a 1.4 liter, would be too small for most people I would think.

cawimmer430

The good news is that the current 1.8-l supercharged 4-cylinder in the C180- and C200 Kompressor are very refined for a 4-cylinder unit. Mercedes really took care of those originally unrefined motors by adding TwinPulse and counter-rotating-balance-shafts.

Even the naturally aspirated 4-cylinder units in the A- and B-Classes have really impressed me with their refinement and engine response. In comparison my sisters BMW 118i sounds a bit rough - almost like a diesel (still a great engine with character, though).

So, refinement wise, nothing to worry about.

I'm not sure how American luxury consumers will respond to this though since they seem to bent on "power and performance" over fuel economy.



EDIT: Oh, and the C180- and C200K and C200 CDI and C220 CDI are going to be replaced very soon. The gasoline engines will apparently be turbocharged while the diesel engine replacement will be a 2.0 or 2.2 4-cylinder with 200-horsepower in the next generation C220 CDI.

Tarek

I don't know why folks complain about the current 1.8K engines they are truly impressive units,they offer best refinement,fuel economy and pulling power.The new turbo bangers has big shoes to fill IMO!

tennmb

The previous 1.8 was a big let down. It looked like it had a bicycle chain in the engine. And we had problems. Mercedes thinks you can go 12,000 miles without changing oil in a 4 banger? get a clue. We had engine problems to say the least.

Beef up the chain, and move oil changes to every 5k and you are probably all right. The power at the time was better than the wimpy 240. The old 2.3 was a durable, tough engine. however, the supercharger was very loud.

Mercedes, if anyone is listening. 4 cyl. turbo diesel, please.

Gullwing

Oil changes wern't the problem. The valve springs wern't strong enough and had to be replaced, or the supercharger bypass cracked. Then there was the alternators that would fail causing the engine to run rough at idle with a load on it.

4 cylinder diesel engine with 50 mpg would do just fine

tennmb

Basically it was just pathetically under engineered.