[scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST - Page 2

ree · **Re: [scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST -** 10-24-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

so the stars are based on fuel consumption?

Good question! The C 63 AMG only need 0.7 litre more fuel then the M3! But the min. and max. data of the fuel consumption differentiate by 1 to 2 litres!

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cawimmer430 · **Re: [scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST -** 10-24-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

so the stars are based on fuel consumption?

Knowing AMS, it wouldn't surprise me.

Just_me · **Re: [scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST -** 10-24-2007, 01:31 PM

You two german dudes, translate all the "+" and "-" pleassse

ree · **Re: [scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST -** 10-24-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cawimmer430

Knowing AMS, it wouldn't surprise me.

Maybe they had to rate the C 63 AMG with 4 stars, because the C 230 won over the Lexus...and to calm all the critics, that AMS will overrate Mercedes, they only give 4 of 5 stars!

south · **Re: [scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST -** 10-24-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cawimmer430

The engine can cope with that extra weight.

Plus this means good high-speed stability on the Autobahn - a place where many C63 AMG drivers will be enjoying this car.

Right, but you don't need 1800kg for high-speed stability, 1600 or 1700 would be still enough to do well on the Autobahn.

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Originally Posted by cawimmer430

Knowing AMS, it wouldn't surprise me.

When comparing with the M3 test results the C63 also achieved slalom, ISO and VDA results that are worse. For sure a great car, but there are differences which "could" lead to a 4 star result. If it's that much of a difference to get 4 stars? I don't know.

Best regards, south

Sunny · **Re: [scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST -** 10-24-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cawimmer430

The engine can cope with that extra weight.

Plus this means good high-speed stability on the Autobahn - a place where many C63 AMG drivers will be enjoying this car.

But the engine can only make up for the weight in a straight line, around a track, the weight will take its toll.

cawimmer430 · **Re: [scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST -** 10-24-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by south

Right, but you don't need 1800kg for high-speed stability, 1600 or 1700 would be still enough to do well on the Autobahn.

Very true.

cawimmer430 · **Re: [scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST -** 10-24-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

You two german dudes, translate all the "+" and "-" pleassse

BODY
+Interior space
+Solid workmanship / quality
+Stiff chassis
-Reduced payload capacity

COMFORT
+Comfortable sport seats
+Acceptable Autobahn comfort
+Good A/C System
-Very hard and stiff suspension, especially at low speeds

ENGINE
+Rev-happy and powerful pulling V8
+Excellent performance
+Excellent automatic transmission
+Attractive engine sound

HANDLING & DRIVING CHARACTERISTICS
+Safe handling in curves
+Agile handling
+Precise steering
+Good traction
-Sometimes vague steering
Huh? Precise steering and then "sometimes vague steering"? -Wimmer

SAFETY
+Excellent brakes
+Well programmed and responsive ESP

ENVIRONMENT
-Fuel consumption

COSTS
-Expensive base price and maintenance costs
-Only 2 year guarantee

Just_me · **Re: [scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST -** 10-24-2007, 02:27 PM

thanks chris but what is "-Reduced payload capacity"?

south · **Re: [scans] AMS: Mercedes C 63 AMG - TEST -** 10-24-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cawimmer430

Huh? Precise steering and then "sometimes vague steering"? -Wimmer

Think these points aren't mutually exclusive. The steering can be precise but kinda numb nonetheless. That's also a point some journalists did criticize about the M3. Nobody did doubt about the precision of the steering, but some said it lacked feedback. Seems kinda the same here; would be interesting to know which is less sensible, M3's or C63's...

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Costs
-Expensive base price and maintenance costs
-Only 2 year guarantee

That's unbelievable. Not even one grand more than the M3, but this seems to make it expensive already.

Best regards, south