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Re: Spy pics: new MB C-class Sportcoupe - 02-15-2007, 12:37 PM

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Mercedes has always marketed the CLK as a much more expensive/higher end 2 door coupe than the C-class sedan/wagon. As such, the CLK does not compete with the 3 series coupe from a pricing point of view. In fact, the CLK has been positioned between the C-class and E-class (actually closer to the E-class).

As such, I think Mercedes wanted to have a "sporty" 2 door hatchback to compete in the lower price range of the 3 series....hence the C-coupe.

Having said all this, history has shown us that not many people will buy a C-coupe.
Actually you're wrong. The CLK in fact is a 3 series coupé competitor. The C-Sportcoupé was made to compete with the 3 Series Compact. BMW later decided to ditch it in favor of the 1 series.
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Re: Spy pics: new MB C-class Sportcoupe - 02-15-2007, 02:50 PM

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It obviously was not a high selling model, as it was discontinued from the North American market prematurely.

Now they are going to bring it back, with a major facelift while keeping the old W203 C-coupe chassis. This tells me that MB doesn't really want to put too much effort/resources into this.......which makes me ask the question: why bother at all?
It sold extremely well in Europe and Asia amongst young professionals and wealthy teenagers.

Also, the old W203 chassis was just fine - after the facelift. I think we can expect some modifications that will make the C204 Sportcoupé a much better ride than ever before. The facelifted C203 Sportcoupés were pretty decent overhere.
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Re: Spy pics: new MB C-class Sportcoupe - 02-15-2007, 10:03 PM

I didnt have a problem with the c-coupe...I thought it was a good looking car for a young professional who maybe wanted a c-class but preferred the 2 door. But I heard there were many problems with the sportcoupe so maybe thats why it wasnt a big seller but if MB fixes all major problems are made the sportcoupe like the new c-class, then i think it will sell many of these coupes. Coupes are in high demand, BMW, Audi and even now vw with the eos are all creating "affordable" coupes. I think MB should give the c-sportcoupe another chance only with a sharp looking new bodystyle and less problems
I dunno, just my 2 cents.

Hopefully the sportcoupe will be arriving in north america. Does anyone know if MB will bring the coupe to north america?
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Re: Spy pics: new MB C-class Sportcoupe - 02-15-2007, 10:22 PM

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Actually you're wrong. The CLK in fact is a 3 series coupé competitor. The C-Sportcoupé was made to compete with the 3 Series Compact. BMW later decided to ditch it in favor of the 1 series.
YOU may consider the CLK to be a 3 series competitor, but Mercedes has been pricing the CLK to be a much higher end car than the C-class and 3 series.

Back in 2005 (when the C-coupe was still available in Canada), here were the prices (Cdn $) of some cars of interest:

C230 Sport Coupe: $36450
C320 Sport Coupe: $40600

C230 Sedan: $37950
C240 Sedan: $42250
C320 Sedan: $53970

CLK320 Coupe: $63490
CLK500 Coupe: $77750

E320 Sedan: $72050
E500 Sedan: $83500

At least in North America, the CLK was priced WAY above the 3 series coupe/sedans (which had prices very similar to the C-coupe and C-class sedans).

Maybe in other markets like Europe, the CLK could be bought for cheaper because some lower end engines were offerred. We never had cars like a CLK240 or CLK200 over here.

As such, I still maintain that Mercedes is not using the CLK to compete with the much cheaper 3 series, at least in North America. The CLK has always been marketed as a higher end luxury coupe.

But having said all this, I have always thought the W209 CLK was overpriced for what you got, especially when you know it was actually based on the W203 C-class.
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Nasty C-Coupe - 02-15-2007, 11:38 PM

One of the local car-rent companies that provides cars to one of the local dealers picked up a few C-coupes (if you can't sell them...) and I drove at least three of them as service loaners. The car has so many bad features that it's hard to know which was worst. Probably that supercharged four-cylinder rock crusher up front was it's worst feature. Very unseemly for an MB, even the bottom-feeder Coupe. And then there were the four-shades-of-black interiors. I will not mention the looks of the thing.
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Re: Spy pics: new MB C-class Sportcoupe - 02-16-2007, 01:22 AM

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A RWD hatchback would be a more proper Merc than a FWD mini MPV like the A/B klasse.
Not having a proper hatchback can mean letting competitors to feed with those sales.
I don't think any of them are a good fit for Mercedes, A, B, or a C Hatchback. They all need to be stricken if they aren't going to be done right.

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Re: Spy pics: new MB C-class Sportcoupe - 02-16-2007, 01:28 AM

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Actually you're wrong. The CLK in fact is a 3 series coupé competitor. The C-Sportcoupé was made to compete with the 3 Series Compact. BMW later decided to ditch it in favor of the 1 series.
Well it is in configuration, but price wise it really isn't here in the U.S.

CLK350 - $46,975
CLK350 Cabrio - $54,975

335i Coupe - $40,600
330i Convertible - $44,900 (old bodystyle)

They're close, but not head on....The CLK is really in between the C/3-Series Class and the E/5-Series class in most configurations.

The CLK63 Cabrio is a whopping $89,975, way overpriced IMO.

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