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Old 11-27-2008, 11:19 PM   #1
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Report: BMW M Division dropping high-rev engines in favor of turbos


The next M3 is likely to be fitted with a twin-turbocharged six-cylinder engine

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Speaking with AutoWeek, high-ranking BMW sources have revealed that the 4.0L and 5.0L high-rev V8 and V10 engines in the current M lineup will make way for forced-induction engines, possibly as early as next year. The first of these are likely to be new M versions of the X5 and X6 SUVs, which have been spotted testing recently in both Germany and the United States.

These performance SUVs, designed to challenge the Porsche Cayenne and Mercedes Benz ML63 AMG, will pick up a new twin-turbocharged 4.4L V8 delivering more power and torque than the current 5.0L V10 in the M5 and M6 line of cars. According to the source, output could be as high as 507hp (373kW) and 516lb-ft (700Nm) of torque – enough for 0-60mph times of less than five seconds and an electronically top speed of 155mph.
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Old 11-27-2008, 11:55 PM   #2
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Re: Report: BMW M Division dropping high-rev engines in favor of turbos

I doubt BMW would change the current M engines for the M3/M5 "as early as next year" in midlife. Perhaps next gen, but not now.
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Old 11-28-2008, 04:47 AM   #3
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Re: Report: BMW M Division dropping high-rev engines in favor of turbos

exactly..to rip off hearts like those from current M´s is bad,bad idea ..
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Re: Report: BMW M Division dropping high-rev engines in favor of turbos

Like i said in the other thread..
More MB´ish
personallyi dont mind..cause i like torque..
but its kinda sad that they are abondening heritage..
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Re: Report: BMW M Division dropping high-rev engines in favor of turbos

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Like i said in the other thread..
More MB´ish
personallyi dont mind..cause i like torque..
but its kinda sad that they are abondening heritage..


It has nothing to do with MB ... but the times we live in. Downsized turbocharged engines are more efficient & less polluting than comparable NA (high-rev) big(ger) displacement engines.

And many strict (upcoming) green regulations & rules force carmakers to offer proper solutions. High-rev NA engines that ain't. Such engines will be dead soon.

Everybody will go turbo ... even the smallest engines will be turbocharged (eg. 1L turbo, or even smaller). Not to mention larger ones.

Just like MB, also BMW & Audi (as well as Porsche, VW etc) will only offer turbocharged / supercharged engines in the future.



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I'm amazed how many of you still don't get it ... we don't live in the 90s any more. The era of big NA & high-rev gasoline engines is over.
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Re: Report: BMW M Division dropping high-rev engines in favor of turbos

I look forward over the next two weeks to explain how M Division will become the absolute pinnacle of the "Efficient Dynamics" Programme.

You will learn why this new direction is indeed going to seperate BMW from the competition - BMW are not intent on prolonging the power war but more the sustainability of these cars for the future.

Then as there will be M drive using updated technology a further edition titled M"e" Drive will showcase very much how these cars will prepare themselves to offset any future emission clauses without losing their connection to BMW's f1 programme. Even with todays car you can alter the settings to unleash all the power , the new M5 will continue this feature but with the ability to close down cylinders that are not required for say driving in a city or town.

Then there is Aluminum-Lithium alloy wheels with option carbon fibre brakes , laminated aluminum carbon fibre body panels and BMW Active Aerodynamics.

M division is reinventing itself for the future , Turbo charging is very much a new era but the results are proving to be astounding.
This whole converstion will be about the six cylinder turbo introduction again , not sure? against the philosophy ?

Wow what an amazing engine!
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Re: Report: BMW M Division dropping high-rev engines in favor of turbos

I'm going to miss the wonderful highreeving engines from BMW. It feels more special to reev a engine and the instant gasthrottle is awesome. I'm certain these new Turbo M engines from BMW are going to be great but I will drop a few tears when the highreeving engines completly disappear.
But I still prey/hope the Turbo engines will reev all the way up to 8000 rpm.
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Re: Report: BMW M Division dropping high-rev engines in favor of turbos

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I'm amazed how many of you still don't get it ... we don't live in the 90s any more. The era of big NA & high-rev gasoline engines is over.
I seriously don't get it either.. It's not like BMW has a freaking choice here. They HAVE to do this.
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Re: Report: BMW M Division dropping high-rev engines in favor of turbos

It's not that people does not get it, it's more like people are not happy about it. No more of one of the things that made BMW special compared to the competition.

Oh well, now they just have to get serious about weight reduction. If there is no high revving I6 or V8 in the next BMW M1/2/3/5 then maybe a diet of 2-300 kgs would do the happy-trick for most customers. I know that then I would not mind, as long as you can't tell that is is a turbo...
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Re: Report: BMW M Division dropping high-rev engines in favor of turbos

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It has nothing to do with MB ... but the times we live in. Downsized turbocharged engines are more efficient & less polluting than comparable NA (high-rev) big(ger) displacement engines.

And many strict (upcoming) green regulations & rules force carmakers to offer proper solutions. High-rev NA engines that ain't. Such engines will be dead soon.

Everybody will go turbo ... even the smallest engines will be turbocharged (eg. 1L turbo, or even smaller). Not to mention larger ones.

Just like MB, also BMW & Audi (as well as Porsche, VW etc) will only offer turbocharged / supercharged engines in the future.



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I'm amazed how many of you still don't get it ... we don't live in the 90s any more. The era of big NA & high-rev gasoline engines is over.
Umm i do understand that they must..
but its still MBish..
and like i said i dont mind..

But PLEASE for the love of god..stop acting like this is the end for high rev engines..just cause BMW think they HAVE to change..
There will be plenty of high rev engines around for LOOOONG..
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