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I'm not acting like this is the end of highreeving engines but its the end for BMW (at least for now) and that is a sad.

As long as they are even better than the 35i engine and fuel efficient as well, then bring on the Turbo engines. Of course i am sad about it, but we can't stop it. It will happen sooner or later, and the better BMW are prepared, the better it is for us, BMW (future) customers and enthusiasts.

BTW, i can see what you mean with the small turbocharged engines. Renault already offers an 1.2l turbo engine, which produces 100hp, with a very low fuel consumption, at least compared with bigger engines!

Well then you and i both agree
I just hate when certain members here..act like if BMW doesent do it..
It can not be done..or no one else will do it..
Pisses me off

PS
The post wasent to you..it was for eni..
I never claimed that you acted like anything..

In some ultra-expensive exotic low-volume / limited edition sports models (eg. Pagani, Ferrari, Lamborghini etc) ... Not in high- & mid-volume selling models though (Ms included).

Well I hadn't had a High-Rev engine from BMW so ... I don't know what I am missing.

But I like turbo charging to say the least. I ll the rush of adernaline.

^ok we will see about that..

I belive there will be high rev Hondas, nissans.. Mazda´s..
Subarus..
And then all those high end cars you told about..

lets see who´s right..

scott27, i really look foward to all the information u intend to share with us on this topic. As a bmw fun, I truely Thank u very much for all that u contribute on these forums.

It's a grave disappointment if true... and all the same a little perplexing.

Those of you who know me around here, will know that I'm a big fan of turbocharging and I've actively extolled the virtues of the principle. But I've never been one to say that turbocharging is the be all and end all to performance engines nor have I said that I cared less for naturally aspirated high-rev engines.

On the contrary, in my opinion the high revving naturally aspirated performance engine is the ultimate expression of motoring nirvana - where turbocharged engines have their place and purpose, there's no denying that the NA engines out of M Division, Ferrari, Porsche and Lamborghini have often been seen as pinnacle achievements in engine design and output.

It is the NA engine that most closely connects the driver's foot to the engine, that revs most eagerly on rapid heel-n-toe downchanges and sounds by far the best.

Given my over-familiarisation with turbo'd engines it was the raw immediacy of the powerful NA engines that I came into contact with from time to time that defined the purity of the whole experience for me. Whilst the power delivery from a forced induction engine is heavy and muscular, one is always aware of the fact that it's all a little, ahem, forced. A naturally aspirated engine in contrast is zestier and more eager to please and such naturally aspirated engines from BMW were definitive for me because they have a "Joie de vivre" about them.

Sure, turbo'd engines have their place, but so too do the great engines from BMW's M Division. These engines are definitive. They are exciting and thrilling and remarkable for the "feeling of connectedness" that no turbo'd engine could and ever will match.

I feel that such thinking at BMW is a knee-jerk reaction to the over-legislated policies toward fuel economy and emissions controls. Or, is it a convenient excuse to simply let these expensive-to-develop, exquisitely engineered and resource intensive M-developed engines to simply go quietly into the night?

And why not a V10 turbo engine?. MB is going to release a new V8 twin turbo engine too, but there are also rumors about their new V12 AMG engine.

So it´s BMW the only one that is not going to have V10 and V12 engines anymore for now atleast.

Oh well there goes the BMW is so "pure" angle. The days of "never" this and "never" that too.

M