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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Autoweek: BMW falls victim to U.S. success Definitely an interesting perspective the author has, especially in regard to Audi's lack of an intense U.S. marketing initiative (until now). Quote:
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autoweek: BMW falls victim to U.S. success Interesting. However i think Audi is all wrong. They have no plant in the US from what i know, so the few cars they sell in the still world's biggest market, are at a high cost. MB here benefits from its plants in the US. Maybe thanks to Chrysler, they were quite present and have built Tuscaloosa to build all the SUVs... BMW and MB are developping their plants in the US to respond to the weak dollar, and i think Audi shouldn't stay away from this very important market. However, Audi is very strong in China, and it's very important too. So each have their strong and weakpoints, and have to work to stay in the race. The weakest of the three is undoubtedly Daimler, with no big and protective shareholders...Audi is already in a group, and BMW is protected against a takeover by the Qandts... So Daimler can't fail, and need high share prices to reamin independant!
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autoweek: BMW falls victim to U.S. success I don't know what much more can be done to counter the weak dollar other than building more cars here. I for one wish BMW would stop building their SAV's here, I couldn't care less for any of them personally. Don't think that's going to change anytime soon due to their "popularity" which I hope will soon wane. Regardless of booming markets elsewhere, the U.S. is still very relevant. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autoweek: BMW falls victim to U.S. success Yeah, but Audi is very strong in China... MB and BMW are investing much in China and could soon be strong there too, but in the meantime Audi is beginning to consider a US plant... i've read they have stopped the Hybrid Q7 because of too low dollar (given that hybrids almost only sell in the US)... smart also, will sell a lot in the US, but will hardly win any money because of this low $... Concerning BMW, I think part of their "problem" could also be named EfficientDynamics. They have integrated all the expensive stuff in their cars for no premium, so their profit are weaker on each cars...Whereas MB will offer all this for a little premium (around 600€ from what i've read)... However maybe it will be a "decisive" sell argument to have this ED integrated in the car for free, i don't know... It's sure is better for the customer, and for the image of the carmaker, to offer all this for free, and much earlier than the others!
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autoweek: BMW falls victim to U.S. success Well IMO Audi should open a plant whenever MB and BMW have theirs if they wanna really compete with them,it's not only good for sales and profit but also for brand recognition,the more ur cars are seen on the streets the more u r well known and more and more clients will enter ur showroom. As for BMW yeah integration of ED in almost every model including the entry level ones has it's disadvantage profit wise that's why MB doesn't offer across the entire range yet that's how i guess it,but on the other side it's good for BMW buyers and thier image. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autoweek: BMW falls victim to U.S. success Beside higher raw material prices, higher energy prices, weak USD, higher marketing expenses BMW are also hurt due EfficientDynamics program. Why? ED R&D have been costly, and so is marketing. Yet BMW do not charge premium / extra for the ED, but offer it as standard in almost any car offered. BMW believe benefits of such strategy will be long-term: sales could go up due ED features (lower fuel consumption - competitive advantage), and even more important: ED will bring BMW brand an image of a pioneer / leader in Clean Energy solutions among premium brands. Mind that Hybrid & Hydrogen solutions are also a sub-parts of ED program. But investors always want to see immediate results & growth rates / profit margins. Not talking about the Quandts but the investments funds. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autoweek: BMW falls victim to U.S. success ED could really end up paying BMW back in the future, so as long as they stay at the forefront of new alternative energy in-car solutions. Another thing that could happen and is more than likely; BMW may end up doing so well in the emerging markets that money lost here will be more than made up for in those markets. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Autoweek: BMW falls victim to U.S. success Hmmmmm...they've been saying this about BMW for years now. Selling more cars and coming out with even more models, but not making any more money. We can go into the various reasons why, but if it isn't corrected there is going to be trouble. More money has to come in to keep an ever expanding product line up to date. To say that Audi isn't harmed by the currency problem is true, but the reality of it is that they don't sell anything here to begin with. VW/Audi of America hasn't made a profit in years. To excuse this on some nonsense about not being affected by the dollar is ridiculous. Fact is Audi should have built a plant here years ago, VW especially. You develop a hybrid and then turn around and can't sell it in the world's biggest hybrid market? A U.S. factory would have solved this problem. M
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