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Old 08-10-2006, 09:01 AM   #11
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Re: New Audi engines: 1.8 TFSI and 2.8 V6 Valvelift FSI.

Just as we expected, Audi now offers an additional 220 hp version of the 2.0T FSI. It is the same engine as in the DTM Edition.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/rsslink....ase-to-220-bhp
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:37 AM   #12
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Re: New Audi engines: 1.8 TFSI and 2.8 V6 Valvelift FSI.

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Just as we expected, Audi now offers an additional 220 hp version of the 2.0T FSI. It is the same engine as in the DTM Edition.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/rsslink....ase-to-220-bhp

Very nice indeed.

Yannis, that whole thing that you mentioned about the tax on the engines is not a happy thing at all.
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:54 AM   #13
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Very nice indeed.

Yannis, that whole thing that you mentioned about the tax on the engines is not a happy thing at all.
In Germany the taxes go according to horsepower , here according to engine displacement. You guys in US are very lucky to have low or no taxes at all.
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Re: New Audi engines: 1.8 TFSI and 2.8 V6 Valvelift FSI.

It's similar in Australia. The governments would quickly commit political suicide if they tried to do such a thing - outside of the major cities, there are such vast distances between populated areas that you arguably need more powerful engines than in Europe where the population is much more dense (no pun/offense intended ).

I suppose that people who travel long distances are already crying out due to the ever increasing fuel prices. In a way, they are intrinsically punishing themselves if they use more fuel than they need to.

Nevertheless, tax to horsepower and emissions is smarter than engine capacity. That would really favour forced induction.
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Re: New Audi engines: 1.8 TFSI and 2.8 V6 Valvelift FSI.

i think the engines line-up will be too clumsy. 2.0 150, 1.4 TSI 170, 1.8T 160, 2.0T 170/200, 2.4 180, 2.8 ?, 3.2 260, 3.6 280...

i think the VW group should really cut down the number of engines, or else the production cost will be higher. for example, they can have different tuning for the same engine. for example, the BMW has 323i and 325i using the same engine, but with different horsepower. unless the new engines have some distinguish features such as low fuel consumption (in fact the old FSI engines also feature this) or light weight, or to replace some current models, otherwise i don't think the two new engines are worth to be here.

in terms of tax, in hk the yearly tax for cars are according to engine displacement--(<=)1500/2500/3500/4500/4500+

so the new engines recieve the same tax as the old ones--2.0/1.8T, 2.8/3.2.
well, 2.0T pays even less tax than 2.8. (1.4TSI is not available in hk)
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:32 AM   #16
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Re: New Audi engines: 1.8 TFSI and 2.8 V6 Valvelift FSI.

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More engines->more choices for consumers.

In some countries (including mine) taxes are calculated according to the volume of the engine so the lower displacement and the higher the power the better. That means that a 1.8 TFSI is more preferable than a 2.0 FSI.
o i remember. eg. in taiwan, 1.8 engine pays less tax than 2.0 ones.
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Re: New Audi engines: 1.8 TFSI and 2.8 V6 Valvelift FSI.

The 1.4 TSI will be used from VW models only not from Audi ones as far as i know. So the lineup of engines for Audi will be:

1.6 FSI 115hp
1.8 TFSI 160 hp
2.0 TFSI 220 hp
2.8 Valvelift 250 hp (estimated)
3.2 Valvelift 300 hp

So it's not really that complicated. The new 1.8 TFSI will eventually replace the 2.0 FSI.

Volkswagen's policy to use many different engines is really paying off since it's No1 in sales in Europe this year as it was last year also. The market share of all VW-Audi group companies is more than 20% meaning one every five cars sold in Europe come from the group.
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Re: New Audi engines: 1.8 TFSI and 2.8 V6 Valvelift FSI.

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In Germany the taxes go according to horsepower , here according to engine displacement. You guys in US are very lucky to have low or no taxes at all.
so why some like BMW likes to use high rev engines? then taxes will be higher~
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