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Re: Audi says it will define the "new luxury" - 01-28-2008, 10:38 PM

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Well Audi's problem in America is their smaller dealer network, some leftover bad image/rep from the 80's and bad reliability reputation. It certainly isn't the cars anymore and most of their dealerships are new now so all that is left is that lingering image problem from the BS unintended acceleration nonsense from the 80's and that "just a fancy VW" image. Sadly a lot of American consumers are short on facts and long on confusion and mis-information about cars. There is no way in hell you're going to tell me that any reasonable person wouldn't like at least 1 model out of Audi's lineup, if you approach it with an open mind and take the time to drive one. Well I guess it is possible if you just aren't into and know nothing about cars. I personally can't see it. Between the S5, R8, S8 and RS4 Cabriolet I'd need to be seriously rich to get all the hot Audis.

Audi needs to actively chase the same customers that BMW and Mercedes do, but with some kind a twist. Then once they get the proper following and sales number they can do the individual thing, without giving up their new found customers.

As hard as it might seem Audi needs to get rid of the 4-cylinder engines in the U.S. BMW and Mercedes have. The 4-cylinders no matter how good they are, say "VW" to a lot of buyers. They don't share nearly as many platforms anymore so now get rid of the 4's and put a small displacement V6 in there. The DSG gearbox needs much wider use in the S/RS cars and especially the R8. Why they haven't done this yet is beyond me.


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Look at the cars you listed though...S5, R8, S8 and RS4. THese are all upper echelon car. That alone is definitely not going to help the Audi by that much.

Here's my opinion on what Audi's need to do to improve (with comparison to BMW and MB).
1) BMW offers 4 years free maintenance... HUGE deal here in the US
2) Let's face it. If you are going to offer 4 cylinders, they are going to have to be better than that imo. BMW and MB don't even offer anything below 6.
3) Audi's have terrible lease deals. The equivalent BMW's are usually cheaper to lease from what I've heard
4) Better marketing like most of you have pointed out. I see BMW and MB ads left and right... about how they have new deals or new models. I barely see anything coming from Audi's way.

Those are the few I can think on top of my head. If you aren't a huge car nut like use, then those kind of things matter.
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Re: Audi says it will define the "new luxury" - 01-28-2008, 10:54 PM

What is new luxury?
and how will they define it
and what will happen to old luxury

many questions..
sure will be interesting to see their plan at work

i wish them the best of luck
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Re: Audi says it will define the "new luxury" - 01-28-2008, 11:15 PM

^ as you said before ....it's marketing BS
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Re: Audi says it will define the "new luxury" - 01-30-2008, 08:50 AM

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Oh God no, "West Coast Luxury" ....I can live without that.
Sounds like something Rappers keep talking about!
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Re: Audi says it will define the "new luxury" - 01-30-2008, 09:53 AM

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Look at the cars you listed though...S5, R8, S8 and RS4. THese are all upper echelon car. That alone is definitely not going to help the Audi by that much.

Here's my opinion on what Audi's need to do to improve (with comparison to BMW and MB).
1) BMW offers 4 years free maintenance... HUGE deal here in the US
2) Let's face it. If you are going to offer 4 cylinders, they are going to have to be better than that imo. BMW and MB don't even offer anything below 6.
3) Audi's have terrible lease deals. The equivalent BMW's are usually cheaper to lease from what I've heard
4) Better marketing like most of you have pointed out. I see BMW and MB ads left and right... about how they have new deals or new models. I barely see anything coming from Audi's way.

Those are the few I can think on top of my head. If you aren't a huge car nut like use, then those kind of things matter.

Well I just pointed out those cars that give the brand some lust compared to say Lexus or Acura or even Infiniti. What you're saying here is pretty much what I've been saying all along and I think 4-cylinders need to go no matter how good they are. They have no place in a luxury car IMO. Yes Audi does have terrible lease deals, they definitely need to work on that to a degree, but not get crazy with it like BMW and Mercedes do sometimes.

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Re: Audi says it will define the "new luxury" - 01-30-2008, 09:54 AM

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What is new luxury?
and how will they define it
and what will happen to old luxury

many questions..
sure will be interesting to see their plan at work

i wish them the best of luck
Clearly this is a swipe at BMW and Mercedes = old luxury.

New luxury of course is Audi and Infiniti IMO.

Like any other marketing-based drivel it only makes sense if you want it to.

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Re: Audi says it will define the "new luxury" - 01-30-2008, 10:30 AM

If Audi want to communicate "new luxury" and "change" efficiently in US market they should endorse Obama ASAP.
And sponsor him with Audi fleet cars. Risky move, but worthy of risk.


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Re: Audi says it will define the "new luxury" - 01-30-2008, 11:28 AM

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If Audi want to communicate "new luxury" and "change" efficiently in US market they should endorse Obama ASAP.
And sponsor him with Audi fleet cars. Risky move, but worthy of risk.


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Not a bad idea
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