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Ja - to go ahead and state the obvious; Bugatti has a rich history of association with speed combined with luxury and excess. Rolls Royce does not have this historical association. A Bentley-badged Veyron fighter would be more palatable. A hypercar Rolls Royce fitted with a twin-turbo BMW V12 wrapped exclusively in carbon fibre would be the equivalent of automotive heresy.

The Veyron had more than just a protracted and troublesome gestation that included R&D on an epic scale to bring it to market. It had the will and half-crazed impetus of the most powerful man in VW forcing it to succeed. Well, at least from a performance and technology deliverable point of view.

Fundamental to the Veyron's success is the very unique engine technology that VW had at its disposal in the form of the W configuration. It is this concept that enabled VW to scale the technology feasibly to the size of a 736 kW quad-turbo, 16 cylinder, 8.0 litre engine whilst keeping the internal dimensions and forces within the ambit of a high performance engine. An 8.0 litre V12 would have a cubic capacity per cylinder far in excess of what BMW deems as being optimum for a performance engine: 666 cc vs. 500cc per cylinder.

What's 8.0 litres divided by 16 cylinders? Yup. 500cc.

I have no info what kind of car that would be. I'm only sure it won't be a mid-engine supercar. I'm also not sure will it top Veyron's performance figures, yet it will definitely be pricier.



There's no other RR than "half Rolls half BMW" ones. That's a sad fact. Contemporary Royces feature more than many BMW solutions & parts. Mainly under the skin.

^ 5 million Euros seems excessive.

It is kind of tacky to be the most expensive just for the sake of being the most expensive.

Besides, if anyone (who the hell are we talking about here?) actually wanted to waste 5 million Euro on a Rolls, they could have a unique one built now.

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As said: every produced car would be unique - so no two cars would be same. Of course additionally some individualization would be possible.

Why RR / BMW are considering that (and who are the crazy potential buyers)?

When RR concepts were introduced some RR customers were ready to pay enormous sums to buy the particular concept car. I'm sure RR / BMW will be able to make an auction, and sell eg. 100EX for at least 20 million Euros. But Concept cars are not for sale, (un)fortunately. Therefore RR are considering to coach-build about 50 examples of unique super-sporty & super-luxury RR - for a ridiculous starting price of 5 million euros. I'm sure the delivery is included in the price.

Btw, not only BMW are offering RR customers exceptional options of customization of Phantom cars, they also offer these buyers a design services by DesignWorks: eg. designing interior for Phantom garage, or the jet interior, or the yacht interiors, special RR-badged cases etc etc ... All to fit the customized RR Phantom etc.

Shoulda bought Aston Martin, shoulda bought Aston Martin, laa laa la-la-laaa shoulda bought Aston Martin.

BMW AG wanted, BMW AG wanted, BMW AG wanted, lalalalalala ... but Ford insisted to retain some stake in the AM Ltd., and to get a right of first refusal.

BMW AG said to Ford: "Go f..k yourselves!"

Since they wanted to integrate the AM division fully into BMW Group: yet with FORD still having a stake in AM Ltd. that was not possible at all!

Did Ford retain a stake within AM Ltd in the TATA deal?

Tata Deal ?

The question of a super-car made by Rolls-Royce could be summarized in one question:
How the hell would they integrate the Rolls-Royce upright grille?

I'm sorry guys but I don't see a €5 million Roller making it's way to production. No car in the world can justify such a price unless it can travel at light speed, can become invisible or can fly. It's all a big NO, this supposed Roller is just a fantasy. The only way you can reach the price of such a car is you create something that looks like a concept car and transfer all the R&D cost to the customers paying for the entire charade.

Besides that, there is very little money to make in a car like that, and judging by the cost cutting plans BMW have announced I can't see how they would consider such a project.

This kind of reminds me of the a guy in a middle east who offered Cadillac $20 000 000 for the Cadillac SIXTEEN Concept.