[Tarek]

Yep i meant in a whole range way,what makes it even harder for Caddy is Mb is gonna push itself even further into the ultra premium cars territory with the upcoming ODC and expect several versions of it so it'll compete directly with the upcoming baby RR and all new CGT family which already being hammered by the MB's 65.And then u have BMW jumping on board with their 7er based 4-door GT with exclusive styling and bespoke finish to a be bridge between the 7er and new baby RR,very exciting it'll be.

BTW is there any test or drag races between the C63 and new CTS-V?

[Merc1]

No comparos yet, but don't worry they're coming. I expect to see the CTS-V against the C63/M3 segment and the RS6/E63/M5 segment in the next few months.

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[ateekt]

Originally Posted by Sunny

I think Cadillac is turning out to be a more genuine replacement for BMW than the other Germans.

Caddy is sure good, but not even near Bimmer or any other (leading) German brand ...!

[Just_me]

Originally Posted by Tarek

BTW is there any test or drag races between the C63 and new CTS-V?

on the m5board.com meetings there been races between M5 and C63 and M5 wins the races. So if this CTS-V is faster than the M5, beating the C63 wont be a problem.

[Merc1]

V for Vendetta: Cadillac makes the jump from knuckle dragger to sophisticate in one leap.



You knew GM had finally gotten serious in 2004 when it offered a Cadillac that only came with a manual transmission.

In a move that probably cost the company quite a few sales to the gridlock-challenged and performance poseurs, the first-generation CTS-V (2004–07) came exclusively with a six-speed stick. Think about that for a minute. The last time a Caddy was offered without an automatic option was in 1942.

What had Cadillac wrought? In our initial road test [March 2004], we informally pitted that first-generation CTS-V against the contemporary BMW M3 and M5. Although that CTS-V lacked refinement and had its share of warts, we were suitably impressed with the GM luxury division’s first serious attempt at building a bona-fide Bavarian-style supersedan. A later comparison [“Executive Adrenalators,” November 2004] placed the CTS-V ahead of a Mercedes-Benz C55 AMG but behind an Audi S4.

Since that first CTS-V, Cadillac has rolled out other V-series products, and each one has solidified and legitimized the future of the very young performance brand. As the first of the V-series products to enter its second generation, the 2009 CTS-V is 4292 pounds of proof that the days of GM letting ordinary cars languish for years and discontinuing performance models just as they achieve a whiff of greatness seem to be in the past. The General now appears committed to evolving product, amellorating flaws, and creating competitive vehicles.

Built upon an evolution of the same Sigma architecture as the original, the CTS-V rides on the same 113.4-inch wheelbase but is fractionally larger in track, width, and length. Despite a couple of weight-saving measures—an aluminum hood and forged aluminum wheels—curb weight is up by a considerable 385 pounds, to a grand total of 4292 for our giant-sunroof-equipped, fully loaded manual-transmission test vehicle. (Fun fact: That’s a mere 109 pounds lighter than the Toyota Highlander in this issue’s SUV comparo.) And yet, like the nearly 4000-pound Nissan GT-R, the Cadillac somehow suspends the laws of gravity.

A big part of the Newtonian bitch slap is the 556-hp, supercharged 6.2-liter V-8. Dubbed LSA, the Caddy engine could be considered a slightly detuned version of the ZR1’s 638-hp LS9, but its titanium-free valvetrain and connecting rods and its conventional wet-sump oil system actually make it more akin to a supercharged version of the standard Corvette 6.2-liter.

Transmitting the power to the road is a Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual gearbox that exhibits crisp low-effort shifts and rights the wrongs of the previous generation’s shifter that had the grace of a shoulder popping in and out of its socket. The two-disc clutch offers excellent modulation and light effort that escaped the previous CTS-V. For those who’d rather let the car do the work, there is now an optional six-speed automatic with steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters.

Another complaint we had about the first-generation V was axle hop, which is the tendency for the drive wheels to skip violently under hard acceleration. Richter-scale-grade shudders plagued the first CTS-V under the stress of wheelspin-filled launches. Now, asymmetrical driveshafts connected to a beefed-up differential and rear subframe allow for shudder-free wheelspin that no longer upsets seismometers when trying for impressive 0-to-60 times. Problem solved.

We couldn’t duplicate Cadillac’s claim of 3.9 seconds to 60 mph with our manual test car (we managed 4.3 seconds), but we did get all the way down to 4.0 seconds in just a couple of runs with a six-speed-automatic version, so it’s likely that the slushbox could fulfill the claim. The supercharged V-8 doesn’t feel brutally powerful in the manner of the blown Mercedes AMG cars of the recent past. When accelerating from a standstill, power builds progressively rather than abruptly. Should you not want to dig up your back issues, we’ll remind you that the quickest M5 and Mercedes E63 we’ve tested took 4.2 seconds to sprint to 60; the most recent M3 sedan, 4.1 seconds.

Should you have left something a quarter-mile behind, the Cadillac will take you back in 12.6 seconds, although you’ll be going 116 mph, which could complicate collecting whatever it was that you left. An M5 will get through a quarter-mile in 12.5 seconds at 118 mph; an E63 and an M3 sedan take 12.6 seconds, with the Benz posting a trap speed of 115 mph and the M3, 113 mph.

One place where the Caddy dominates is top speed. Cadillac doesn’t subscribe to the German gentleman’s agreement to limit cars to 155 mph, so the V-series will test your sphincter’s fortitude right up to 191 mph, according to Cadillac (automatic versions are electronically governed to 175 to limit transmission output-shaft speed).

On the racetrack, the CTS-V, shod in its purpose-built Michelin PS2 rubber, displayed an acutely neutral manner and massive grip (0.93 g on the skidpad), which would change to understeer or oversteer *depending on driver inputs. There are three settings for the stability-control system: on, off, and competition, which turns off the traction control and keeps the stability control switched on but dials back the point where the electronics intervene. Switch the stability control off or into competition mode, and the computer will dial in more steering effort. Although numbness remains in the otherwise precise steering, the heavier effort forces the driver to be a bit more deliberate.

Helping keep the Michelins in step are second-generation magnetorheological shocks that can alter their damping more quickly, keeping the tires reliably in contact with the tarmac. The shocks feature sport and tour settings that take orders from a dash-mounted button. In tour mode, the shocks can achieve the same stiffness as in sport mode, but sport mode brings full firmness faster.

Strong, fade-free brakes easily absorbed the drama that is 4292 pounds moving at triple-digit speeds, bringing the car to rest from 70 mph in 166 feet. Our test car featured the Track package, which includes two-piece, 14.6-inch front rotors that cool more effectively, and red six-piston calipers. The standard front brakes are the same size but are a single-piece slotted design with silver-colored six-piston calipers. The brakes bite with initial pedal travel and progressively and predictably haul the car toward ABS intervention.

Armed with enough coolers to rival a NASCAR infield—oil cooler, supercharger intercooler, transmission cooler, and an optional differential cooler—the CTS-V stayed unruffled and composed on the track and felt as if it would lap for days without complaint.

Our only track-related gripe centered on a rather abrupt rev limiter that cut in brutally and was slow to recover. Driver error is more to blame than the car itself, but the engine is so powerful right up to the 6200-rpm redline (power peaks at 6100 rpm) that it is easy to mistakenly run into the limiter. To prevent that, the V  features “tracers” that illuminate as the needle sweeps through the dial. Approach the redline, and the small red lights flash to warn the driver to shift—see what we mean about driver error?

Much of the rest of the interior is identical to that of the standard-issue CTS, which is to say an enormous improvement over the previous CTS-V. A glossy black (some automakers call it “piano black,” Cadillac dubs it “Obsidian”) plastic panel runs down the middle of the center console in place of the non-V’s gray finish. Other changes include an optional microfiber-clad steering wheel and shifter that feel as right here as they do in a Porsche 911 GT3. For extra dough, there are actual Recaro seats that mimic the design of the standard CTS seat. The Recaro chair has glute-gripping microfiber running down the center and comes with adjustable upper and lower leather bolsters.

A tilting-and-telescoping steering wheel and 14-way adjustable seat make it easy to dial in the perfect position and felt tailor-made for your humble five-foot-eleven servant. But those who sit closer to the dashboard complained that the shifter was set too far rearward.

With the shocks in the tour setting, the CTS-V cruises in the same relaxed manner as the less-intense 304-hp CTS. Without question, the V-specific suspension is firm and quivers are occasionally sent through the structure, but the CTS-V is remarkably luxurious and will play traditional Cadillac when you want it to over all but the worst roads. We measured 71 decibels as the Caddy poured itself down the road at 70 mph. Under acceleration, the faint whisper of V-8 beats can be heard from behind the whine of the supercharger.

Official pricing has not yet been *announced, but we estimate that this new CTS-V will command $59,000 for an optionless model. That’s about $5500 more than the previous CTS-V’s price, but there’s *really no comparing the two. In one evolutionary step, Cadillac has addressed every weakness of the original, and in doing so has built a sports sedan that poses a threat to German competition costing far more. Jingoism, Cadillac style.


Highs: Hard-charging V-8, track-ready out of the showroom, the way it scoffs at gravity, handsome inside and out, refined manners.

Lows: Abrupt rev limiter, slightly numb steering, substantial curb weight, shifter set too far back for some.

The Verdict: For its next trick, Cadillac delivers a no-excuses world-class car at a price that almost seems like a bargain.



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I'm really starting to want one of these.


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[Tarek]

Originally Posted by Just_me

on the m5board.com meetings there been races between M5 and C63 and M5 wins the races. So if this CTS-V is faster than the M5, beating the C63 wont be a problem.

I see,any links?

[Just_me]

Originally Posted by Tarek

I see,any links?

Not yet, think of it as inside information

[Merc1]

What is it?

The new 556bhp 6.2-litre V8 Cadillac CTS-V, which is due in the UK later this year in left-hand drive only and at 'a price closer to M3 than M5’, according to Cadillac.

Engineers at GM's high-performance division have spared no effort to build a great car. It’s kitted with a slightly detuned version of the supercharged, intercooled V8 of the forthcoming Corvette ZR-1, adaptive 'magnetic ride' suspension units, giant Brembo brakes and world-class chassis electronics.

Engineer and Le Mans ace John Heinricy recently blitzed the Nurburgring with a sub-eight minute lap (7:59.32 to be exact) to take the production saloon record.


Full Article:

Cadillac CTS-V - Road Test First Drive - Autocar.co.uk


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[bmer]

Truly impressive machine Cadillac has made here! The performance makes me want to forgive some of its not-so-elegant design. I still want to read Evo's impressions on this.

[Merc1]

CAR's rating:


The Cadillac CTS-V is a super saloon to make BMW M5 drivers feel inadequate. And with a huge 6.2-litre V8 it has the cubic capacity and cylinder count to match the Mercedes AMG trio of C, E and CLS 63. Except GM saw fit to strap an Eaton supercharger to the V8 in the Cadillac CTS-V…

That LS9 V8 is basically the same engine you’ll find in the latest Corvette ZR1, albeit with the whick turned down to deliver 82 fewer horses. Still, you shouldn’t be found wanting with 556bhp. But unlike the Corvette this Caddy has four doors, five seats and the option of a six-speed auto. Read on for CAR Online’s first drive of the Cadillac CTS-V and to find out whether V can match up to the Establishment's M, RS and AMG rivals.
Just what exactly is the Cadillac CTS-V?

This Caddy is a bit of a conundrum. Size-wise it’s nearer 5-series than Three. Yet the engine produces more power than an M5, although at around £47k the CTS-V is cheaper than an M3.

In the States the CTS-V costs a mere $65k (£37k), so despite the current economic climate, and with the help of an auto, GM should hit its 6000-a-year sales target. If it all goes well, we’ll then see a V version of the CTS Coupe, and maybe even a hot CTS wagon.


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