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Re: New CTS-V: 550 HP Supercharged V8 - 01-11-2008, 06:06 AM

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This is a very valid point Martin ....I agree entirely with your post.

However, I think in some ways the true "Americaness" of Cadillac is also one of its most important and appealing attributes. Cadillacs are intrinsically American -- the 1959 Cadillac Eldorado is The American car of the American century (the 20th century) IMO.

I understand what you are saying about Mercedes being a global brand producing global cars ....but I would be sad to see Cadillac lose its American character ....a certain level of American patriotism is at the heart of the marque ...much like Britain and Rolls-Royce (we'll just ignore the facts of that situation for the sake of the point ...shall we )
Well, the German cars still have their German characteristics and have still managed to appeal to a global audience, so have the Japanese and the Italians. I admit it is more of a marketing job, but the Americans royally fail at it.
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Re: New CTS-V: 550 HP Supercharged V8 - 01-11-2008, 06:18 AM

Rob, I have no problem whatsoever with the intrinsic American nature of American cars. Hell no. What I want however, is for the right American cars to be made available to the rest of the world in a manner that it globally pertinent.

I don't want a jazzed up Saab 9-3 in the form of a BLS. I don't want a naff SUV that can't hold its own against a RAV-4 on or off road.

I want the Corvette Z06 for American market money. I want the Mustang and the Dodge Charger R/T. I want American cars that are reprensentative of the American motoring culture in a "proud-to-be-American" context to be sold because they bring the best of American motoring and not just because they happen to have an American brand.

Until this happens, the best of America will remain largely the preserve of Americans. Just like "world series" baseball, football and basketball.
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Re: New CTS-V: 550 HP Supercharged V8 - 01-11-2008, 06:18 AM

^^Fair points Sunny ....but I don't know if Mercedes or BMW are quite viewed in Germany the way Cadillac is in the US -- Cadillac is part of American popular culture -- perhaps it shares its significance with the Mustang or Corvette. Martin is right though, the US is a very insular (inward-looking) automotive market.


^Can't argue with that Martin.
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Re: New CTS-V: 550 HP Supercharged V8 - 01-11-2008, 06:23 AM

Rob, dont forget the status Volvo and Saab have here in Sweden
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Re: New CTS-V: 550 HP Supercharged V8 - 01-11-2008, 06:29 AM

Oh, I'm sorry Andreas .....I'm sure they do have a big Nationalistic fan base too. Volvo has always been a very well respected brand around the world.
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Re: New CTS-V: 550 HP Supercharged V8 - 01-14-2008, 05:18 PM

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Re: New CTS-V: 550 HP Supercharged V8 - 02-26-2008, 01:19 AM

the car looks hot, I just have a mental issue with the car being a 4 door. What I mean is that much power should be in a coupe~
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Re: New CTS-V: 550 HP Supercharged V8 - 02-26-2008, 01:33 AM

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This is a very valid point Martin ....I agree entirely with your post.

However, I think in some ways the true "Americaness" of Cadillac is also one of its most important and appealing attributes. Cadillacs are intrinsically American -- the 1959 Cadillac Eldorado is The American car of the American century (the 20th century) IMO.

I understand what you are saying about Mercedes being a global brand producing global cars ....but I would be sad to see Cadillac lose its American character ....a certain level of American patriotism is at the heart of the marque ...much like Britain and Rolls-Royce (we'll just ignore the facts of that situation for the sake of the point ...shall we )
That's why I think Cadillac is still one of the few companies afloat in America. They are making pretty sweet cars nowadays, however I just don't see it going anywhere outside the US. Honestly, a car like this would just not work in Asia for example. Just different cultures I guess... it's too out there, even to BMW standards.

I think this car will handle decent, but not more because it is one hell of a heavy car. However, it's hard to ignore that firepower though. I think it will slowly fade away whereas the Germans will remain in the picture... that's just imo.
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Fastest sedan ever? 2009 Cadillac CTS-V breaks 8-minute mark on Nurburgring - 05-09-2008, 05:13 PM



The 2009 Cadillac CTS-V has broken the eight-minute mark for a lap around the Nurburgring Norschleife, putting in a lap time of 7:59:32 during testing, which may be the fastest lap time ever for a sedan.

Fastest sedan ever? 2009 Cadillac CTS-V breaks 8-minute mark on Nurburgring - Auto News - Motor Trend

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