The B&O Sound system costs between 5.100 € (Audi S8 and W12) and 6.500 €! It isn't standard!!

OK, thanks. So I was wrong, it's still optional after all...

Stunning car very elegant and sleek but i'd never take a W12 over a S600!

I'm glad they didn't do much to the basic design of this car. But I must ask - why two facelifts in a generation?

So this was the "new" A8 my dealer was talking about... They were offering it to us at a very attractive price. Decided not to take it on because 2 years later the new A8 would be out already.

I don't really like the new rear light design. Maybe if I see it in action it would look nicer.

Why never?Can you be 100 percent sure,I mean?IMO,Audi suits me far more better than Benz..Maybe it would be different if I had 50 years on my back and retirement on a way .

The W12 has proven itself to be an inefficient engine. It generates a lot of heat, weighs quite a bit and the cars that it is fitted into drink too much petrol and are nose-heavy. It doesn't compete on the same level with say, a MB V12, in terms of refinement as well.

I've heard Audi will ditch the W12 soon for a conventional V12. Not a bad choice.

Thanks for the info, I knew the weight of the engine affected ride quality. Have any idea how much more the engine weights then the one in the S600?

No idea. The one benefit of a W12 though is that it takes up less space in the engine bay than conventional V12s. Not too much use if it's a large car anyway...

You know what, I have to tell you that I'm really surprised with the way Audi facelifted the A8/S8 in the front.
WHy put these shape on the fog-lights there, while no other model in the Audi line has them? And why don't put LEDs in there, as the S6? I really believe this whole facelift is a big disapointment!