Curb Zone | Japanese Car Zone | German Car Zone
German Car Zone
Home Welcome Guest!

Welcome to German Car Zone.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will be able to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own pictures and access many other special features. You will also gain access to our Member's Only Forums, including Car Picture Threads, Automotive Sales and Business News and many more. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please,
join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Go Back   German Car Zone > Audi > A5/S5/RS5
Reload this Page Audi A5/S5 Design Special.
A5/S5/RS5 B8 Platform (MLP): To Begin Production (2007 -

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  (#1 (permalink)) Old
Super Moderator
 
Yannis's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,570
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Greece
I drive: 2008 Nissan X-Trail 2004 Audi A4 1.8T
Thanks: 2,185
Thanked 2,054 Times in 1,164 Posts
Yannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to behold
Yannis is offline
Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - 09-13-2007, 09:50 AM



An in depth analysis (including sketches and videos) of the most beautiful car Walter De' Silva has ever designed (according to his own words)...

- ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  (#2 (permalink)) Old
EnI
Aficionado
 
EnI's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,607
Join Date: Sep 2005
Thanks: 165
Thanked 2,396 Times in 1,113 Posts
EnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud of
EnI is offline
Re: Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - 09-13-2007, 10:43 AM

Da Silva didn't design A5. I even doubt he designed any of Audi cars since design chiefs usually do not design cars.

Check the sketches: some guy named "Wada" (?) is signed under the exterior sketches, and a guy named "Guinart" (?) under the interior sketches of A5.

So, VdS is taking credits for something he didn't do it by himself.
Isn't that a bit unfair & unprofessional.


Btw, I have never heard any design chief taking credits for a particular design. They usually use words "we designed", or "our design".
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  (#3 (permalink)) Old
Super Moderator
 
Yannis's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,570
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Greece
I drive: 2008 Nissan X-Trail 2004 Audi A4 1.8T
Thanks: 2,185
Thanked 2,054 Times in 1,164 Posts
Yannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to behold
Yannis is offline
Re: Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - 09-13-2007, 11:09 AM

Come on EnI why do you have to ruin this thread?

Design chiefs give design directions , even if they don't actually do the design , they guide the designers how to do the details ect.

So the A5 was designed under De Silva's supervision and in that sense it's his work.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Yannis For This Useful Post:
Tumbo (09-15-2007)
  (#4 (permalink)) Old
Advocate
 
hu§eindesign's Avatar
 
Posts: 523
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Germany
Thanks: 137
Thanked 268 Times in 96 Posts
hu§eindesign is a jewel in the roughhu§eindesign is a jewel in the roughhu§eindesign is a jewel in the roughhu§eindesign is a jewel in the roughhu§eindesign is a jewel in the rough
hu§eindesign is offline
Re: Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - 09-13-2007, 11:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yannis View Post
Design chiefs give design directions , even if they don't actually do the design , they guide the designers how to do the details ect.

So the A5 was designed under De Silva's supervision and in that sense it's his work.
No it isn't.
It's right that design chiefs give the directions but that doesn't mean that every work that comes out of the studio is their own. It's unfair and disrespectful towards the designer who actually did all the work. I bet he's quite pissed off of his chief for bringing this statement in every interview about the A5!
It's sometimes understandable when the press credits chief designers for every car from their studios (they still insist that Bangle designed the 7er!) but I don't understad why a design chief himself claims such things
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  (#5 (permalink)) Old
EnI
Aficionado
 
EnI's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,607
Join Date: Sep 2005
Thanks: 165
Thanked 2,396 Times in 1,113 Posts
EnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud of
EnI is offline
Re: Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - 09-13-2007, 11:43 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yannis View Post
Come on EnI why do you have to ruin this thread?

Design chiefs give design directions , even if they don't actually do the design , they guide the designers how to do the details ect.

So the A5 was designed under De Silva's supervision and in that sense it's his work.


I'm not ruining anything.

I'm just pointing out what bothers me since VdS had made that claim. I doubt it at that time already, but still left a small window open for a possibility he really did design the car by himself. But now - looking at those A5 sketches seeing other people are signed under the ext & int designs - it was natural to me to point that out.

Cocky VdS, or clumsy VdS?


Like I said: never has a single design chief taken a credit for a particular design (designed by a member of his department). They either say who actually design it, or credit the whole department using words "we" or "our".

Imagine how would you feel if you were S. Wada.

Pretty bad. Watching your boss taking credits for your own work. I would be pissed & quit. And I'm sure so would be you.

Black spot for you, Mr. VdS!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  (#6 (permalink)) Old
Super Moderator
 
Yannis's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,570
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Greece
I drive: 2008 Nissan X-Trail 2004 Audi A4 1.8T
Thanks: 2,185
Thanked 2,054 Times in 1,164 Posts
Yannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to behold
Yannis is offline
Re: Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - 09-13-2007, 11:57 AM

So because the sketch says wada that means that Walter de Silva didn't actually designed the A5 and he is stealing someone else's credits.

Wow , Walter is such a bad guy , shame on him.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  (#7 (permalink)) Old
EnI
Aficionado
 
EnI's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,607
Join Date: Sep 2005
Thanks: 165
Thanked 2,396 Times in 1,113 Posts
EnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud of
EnI is offline
Re: Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - 09-13-2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yannis View Post
So because the sketch says wada that means that Walter de Silva didn't actually designed the A5 and he is stealing someone else's credits.

Wow , Walter is such a bad guy , shame on him.

Unless "S. Wada" is a signature of "S(ilva). Wa(lter)da.

In that case it's just lame to sign sketches with a cryptic signature.
Yannis, investigate! In the case I'm wrong you could immediately delete all my posts in this thread, and I'll apologize to everyone here I doubt Mr da Silva. But I need a proof first. Find it if you can.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  (#8 (permalink)) Old
Advocate
 
hu§eindesign's Avatar
 
Posts: 523
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Germany
Thanks: 137
Thanked 268 Times in 96 Posts
hu§eindesign is a jewel in the roughhu§eindesign is a jewel in the roughhu§eindesign is a jewel in the roughhu§eindesign is a jewel in the roughhu§eindesign is a jewel in the rough
hu§eindesign is offline
Re: Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - 09-13-2007, 12:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yannis View Post
So because the sketch says wada that means that Walter de Silva didn't actually designed the A5 and he is stealing someone else's credits.
You obviously don't know who things work in design studios Yannis
Anyway, da Silva didn't design the car. It's even stated in Auto&Design magazine.
The name of the designer is Satoshi Wada. He's Japanese as you can tell by his name.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  (#9 (permalink)) Old
Super Moderator
 
Yannis's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,570
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Greece
I drive: 2008 Nissan X-Trail 2004 Audi A4 1.8T
Thanks: 2,185
Thanked 2,054 Times in 1,164 Posts
Yannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to beholdYannis is a splendid one to behold
Yannis is offline
Re: Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - 09-13-2007, 12:25 PM

S. Wada= Satoshi Wada , Senior Exterior Designer at Audi

- ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  (#10 (permalink)) Old
EnI
Aficionado
 
EnI's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,607
Join Date: Sep 2005
Thanks: 165
Thanked 2,396 Times in 1,113 Posts
EnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud ofEnI has much to be proud of
EnI is offline
Re: Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - 09-13-2007, 12:29 PM

Thank you.

Walter da Silva = credit thief

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On