Audi A5/S5 Design Special. - Page 3

RICHBOY · 09-13-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EnI

1. He is.

He is now a Volkswagen Group design chief.

2. Who? Audi officials? "Journalists"? Audi won't do it - that would mean shooting themselves in their own leg. A PR fiasco. Mr. Wada won't do it - since he could lose his job. Journalists? Do they really care?

3. Like Huss said: designs are property of a company.

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C'mon Audi guys. WdS blew it this time. Sh!t happens. The guy took credit for a design he didn't do it by himself.

Btw, I do not believe you have more problem with that that I ("official GCZ Audi-basher") pointed out that issue, than with WdS "stealing" the credit for A5 design.

Blind faith!

Disregard the legal aspect I was trying to point out, what about from a resume stand point. Would Wang have the ability to credit the A/S5 as part of his body of work, or does DeSilva have that right, or neither?

hu§eindesign · 09-13-2007, 02:19 PM

O fcourse he can. He can't sue Audi for using the design, but he still can say that he's the designer of the car. And everyone would believe him ecxept Yannis. daSilva would be lying if he put the A5 in his portfolio, because he didn't design it. Only Yannis would believe him.

Yannis · 09-13-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EnI

C'mon Audi guys. WdS blew it this time. Sh!t happens. The guy took credit for a design he didn't do it by himself.

He didn't blew anything. Audi is proud to have him as head designer and the whole "the most beautiful car i ever made" thing was a well organized promotion of the A5.

So that was the direction that he was given from the executives (probably Winterkorn himself).

Now that you know the truth i hope that you will leave the guy alone. He is just doing his job.

EnI · 09-13-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Yannis

He didn't blew anything. Audi is proud to have him as head designer and the whole "the most beautiful car i ever made" thing was a well organized promotion of the A5.

So that was the direction that he was given from the executives (probably Winterkorn himself).

Now that you know the truth i hope that you will leave the guy alone. He is just doing his job.

Now I'll be evil and bring BMW into the game.

Eg. lately when X5, CS Concept & X6 Concept were presented exterior (and in some cases also the interior) designers were credited, and were able to present their designs via interviews, BMW-made video promos, were pictured in official promo photos included in press kit, and were present at premieres of "their babies".

Have you ever seen any Audi designer being able to do that? No. Even worse: one of them even left without any credits since his boss claimed he personally had the credit for A5 design. Lame.

Yannis · 09-13-2007, 02:33 PM

Off topic , this is a thread about A5 design , we don't care what BMW does.

I knew it from the first post you made that you were going to mention BMW somewhere. You just can't resist it.

EnI · 09-13-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Yannis

I knew it from the first post you made that you were going to mention BMW somewhere. You just can't resist it.

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Off topic , this is a thread about A5 design , we don't care what BMW does.

Sure. But I had to give you a good example have to treat & motivate the designers.

I doubt Mr. Wada is very motivated right now. Is he even still staying with Audi? I wouldn't be surprised he already left.

hu§eindesign · 09-13-2007, 06:06 PM

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the whole "the most beautiful car i ever made" thing was a well organized promotion of the A5.

Yes, for the A5, but not for his image. I lost a lot of my respect to him after reading this and knowing that didn't design the car. He could easily replace "I" with "We" and everybody would have been happy and you wouldn't find neither EnI nor me bitching around

EnI · 09-13-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hu§eindesign

He could easily replace "I" with "We" and everybody would have been happy and you wouldn't find neither EnI nor me bitching around

Exactly.

RICHBOY · 09-14-2007, 06:24 AM

Thank god for the GCZ whistle blowers hu§eindesign and EnI, you'll bring down DaSilva if it's the last thing you do right?

hu§eindesign · 09-14-2007, 08:55 AM

Wrong!

what I see is that people are defending him for doing something obviously wrong. And I really can't understand that.
No body said he's a bad designer. he isn't for me, and Audi's gaint leap in design can only prove it, but it's unprofessional and unfair. Just put yourself in the position of the man who done all the work, just so that your boss comes and claims that he was the one who did it.
I just want to know -from you and from Yannis- whether you think this behaviour is ok or not.

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