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Old 05-30-2007, 06:15 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Re: Power hungry. Top Gear S5 drive.

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Listen up Sunny, you had nothing to add from the begining. I already dismissed your useless post. You made a discussion about car quality plus and minuses into a discussion about sells. I could careless about car sells sunny, if that's the case the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry are the best to cars on the planet because of sales. Move on Sunny or bring a friend!
Yes, you did indeed dismiss my post with your cool, collected debating skills and excellent sentence constructions - not to mention relevant facts. And how stupid of me to think that Camry and 3 series were in different market segments, but then again, I was also stupid enough to think that the the "sells" number indicates what the consumer wants in a particular market segment - I guess I was wrong all this time.
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:20 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Re: Power hungry. Top Gear S5 drive.

Last time I drove a 335i Coupé I thought it was simply one of the most magnificent real-world motoring experiences to be had at the price and I'm more fond of BMW's interiors than I am of Audi's better built yet more conservative designs. The 335i Coupé is an epic car and is in no way outclassed by the S5 or CLK.

I may prefer the S5 slightly in terms of its on road presence but really there's nothing between the two in the head-turning stakes.
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:23 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Re: Power hungry. Top Gear S5 drive.

The S5 is NOT a direct competitor to the 335i. Only the upcoming 335 Si should be there.
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:23 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Re: Power hungry. Top Gear S5 drive.

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I couldn't disagree with you more! Audi and Mercedes make complete packages, BMW makes amazing handling cars but if you look at the whole thing it's a little light in the ass! I know this is gonna sound crazy but their's more to cars then handling, and driver feedback! Something tells me if you were to sit behind a 335i, S5, and a C-Class on a show room floor you'd realize just how out classed the 3-Series truely is. 0.2 Sec hear or their won't make-up for that!!
I understand where you're coming from RICHBOY, but it's a plain and simple fact that Audi has a very expensive coupé that barely manages to call the 3er coupé a competitor in terms of pricing. You can base the A5 against (or above) the 3er coupé all you want in terms of complete packaging or whatever, but the price argument holds water and then some.
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:32 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Re: Power hungry. Top Gear S5 drive.

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Last time I drove a 335i Coupé I thought it was simply one of the most magnificent real-world motoring experiences to be had at the price and I'm more fond of BMW's interiors than I am of Audi's better built yet more conservative designs. The 335i Coupé is an epic car and is in no way outclassed by the S5 or CLK.

I may prefer the S5 slightly in terms of its on road presence but really there's nothing between the two in the head-turning stakes.
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Re: Power hungry. Top Gear S5 drive.

yep out of the 3 i would take the 335 its a superb car.. maybe one of the best on sale..it looks good drives good.. and handles like a dream

cant wait to see if the new CLK will do something to make surrender the 335..
it has to do something really speciall though

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the only thing i dont LOVE is the interior..but its still nice..and can look real hot with the right combos and options
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:56 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Yes, you did indeed dismiss my post with your cool, collected debating skills and excellent sentence constructions - not to mention relevant facts. And how stupid of me to think that Camry and 3 series were in different market segments, but then again, I was also stupid enough to think that the the "sells" number indicates what the consumer wants in a particular market segment - I guess I was wrong all this time.
Move on Funny, You came with nothing but a good fallback position, sales. Their's no need for any debating if all that matters is sales stupid! Was that clear enough for ya? Most people who run and drop sales as their ace card have no need to be here! So what you should do is post the sales figures in every class so we can all see who's the best, and then when can get a moderator to close down the form since the profit margin is the determining factor !
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:58 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Re: Power hungry. Top Gear S5 drive.

great read-thanks. I havent driven the S5 obviously but i did drive the S4 and i didnt think the expereince was any near the 335i sedan's-of course the S5 has a reworked suspension but it still sounds like its a numb experience.
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Re: Power hungry. Top Gear S5 drive.

Today someone passed on an recent issue of Autoweek where they tested the A6 + S5. A long lingering thought entered my head yet again while reading the review; why in the hell is there an "S"5 - IMO, it looks like a half hearted attempt at creating a sporty A5 variant whose roll should have been left to the RS5, but Audi just had to stick an "S" badge on it and cram the venerable 4.2 V8 so prevalent in the non S Audi car line up, and try to get you, me and everyone else to think that it's a real sports car - I don't buy it. It's stuck in the middle looking like it wants to be something it truly isn't. On the one hand it's performance isn't nearly as good as the 335's for far less money, and on the other it won't come anywhere close to the E92 M3's performance. Worst of all it's having huge identity issues, which IMO extends from the "S" car line not really having a credible place other than in the hearts of Audi die hards, but we've been there before. So I stand firm and alone on that thought.

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Move on Funny You came with nothing but a good fallback position, sales. Their's no need for any debating if all that matters is sales stupid! Was that clear enough for ya?
1st and last warning, Richboy!

His screen name is Sunny, so please respect that! Secondly, do i have to write you or you'll be so kind to check forum rules once again about insulting members and name callings?

And last, this is A5/S5 thread, Top Gear's S5 drive, not Internal Combustion and certainly not S5 vs. 335i thread, that goes for both of you!

This is where your argue ends, stay on topic!

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