Audi RS5 Thread (Spy pics & info)

[Sunny]

If it does indeed have 480HP, the other interesting comparison would be GTR. Both will have 480HP, probably cost the same (~$80k) and weigh around the same too. Both will have AWD and DCT. My money is on the GTR though, it is amazing how much development Nissan is still doing to the car.

[NarutoRamen]

Originally Posted by Sunny

it is amazing how much development Nissan is still doing to the car.

That's nothing new. Japanese automakers ALWAYS revise their sports cars almost every year. Since the introduction of the FD-RX7, it's been revised a billion times. S2000 been revised a ton, the NSX been revised a ton and the BNR-34 GTR also has been revised a million times. It's just how they do it over there.

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by NarutoRamen

That's nothing new. Japanese automakers ALWAYS revise their sports cars almost every year. Since the introduction of the FD-RX7, it's been revised a billion times. S2000 been revised a ton, the NSX been revised a ton and the BNR-34 GTR also has been revised a million times. It's just how they do it over there.

Yea, I had no idea. It is only now since I started following NAGTROC.com, I realized. People blame Japanese cars for lacking passion, but if we look at the passion of the engineers behind cars like the GTR, the Japanese are second to none, not even the Italians.

[NarutoRamen]

Originally Posted by Sunny

Yea, I had no idea. It is only now since I started following NAGTROC.com, I realized. People blame Japanese cars for lacking passion, but if we look at the passion of the engineers behind cars like the GTR, the Japanese are second to none, not even the Italians.

The people who say Japanese cars (or car from any other country) lack passion are biased pieces of sh!ts. To say that the guy building the GTR or the guys who built the NSX lacked passion versus some dude in Ferrari factory or what have you is just f__king stupid. At the end of the day they all are doing a job.

You want to find passion? Find me the dude who has worked for a company for 20 years and never got paid, now THAT is passion. Working for a paycheck is not passion, sorry to break it to you. You could be passionate about your job, i.e. you love your job, but real passion means you will do it no matter what. Take the paycheck away from anyone at those factories and they'll be pissed off and call names.

[HighestOfHigh]

NarutoRamen, That is the absolute truth!

[VroomVroom]

Originally Posted by NarutoRamen

The people who say Japanese cars (or car from any other country) lack passion are biased pieces of sh!ts. To say that the guy building the GTR or the guys who built the NSX lacked passion versus some dude in Ferrari factory or what have you is just f__king stupid. At the end of the day they all are doing a job.

You want to find passion? Find me the dude who has worked for a company for 20 years and never got paid, now THAT is passion. Working for a paycheck is not passion, sorry to break it to you. You could be passionate about your job, i.e. you love your job, but real passion means you will do it no matter what. Take the paycheck away from anyone at those factories and they'll be pissed off and call names.

Very very true!

But people can say the meaning of life is love or friendship, thats a load of sh!t!

Everything we do in life is to make money, so the people building these cars got the job for the money, not the passion.

[coolraoul]

Originally Posted by NarutoRamen

The people who say Japanese cars (or car from any other country) lack passion are biased pieces of sh!ts. To say that the guy building the GTR or the guys who built the NSX lacked passion versus some dude in Ferrari factory or what have you is just f__king stupid. At the end of the day they all are doing a job.

You want to find passion? Find me the dude who has worked for a company for 20 years and never got paid, now THAT is passion. Working for a paycheck is not passion, sorry to break it to you. You could be passionate about your job, i.e. you love your job, but real passion means you will do it no matter what. Take the paycheck away from anyone at those factories and they'll be pissed off and call names.

Actually that is too simplistic.
When we say the Japanese lack passion, it means that they seem onmy to do things when they deem it reasonable, when it will bring them smtgh in return.

Karl Benz and Gottlieb Daimler didn't create the car to earn money, they lost mountains of money in the process.

When Erich Waxenberg took the time of fitting the big 6.3l M100 V8 in the "small" W109 middle-class car to create the stunning 300SEL 6.3, he didn't do it to earn money.

That is the kind of ,passion the Japanese lack. They don't do crazy things like, especially, mercedes does. And their sportscar are always stunningly impressive in terms of numbers, but don't come close to their European rivals in terms of emotions and feelings (noise, vibrations, design, driving involvement).

it is in that that the japanese get their reputation of "lacking passion". They are often too reasonable. Even the GTR can be seen as a relatively "reasonable" sportscar... Only Honda is bit crazier than the others (high-revving, Wankel, NS-X).

[martinbo]

The Wankel or Rotary engine is Mazda proprietary - not Honda.

[HighestOfHigh]

I have no idea what to do with this "possible A5 (future)" photo...but here it goes -

[ree]

This is a RS5 lightweight-concept - reffering to the ancient-Quattro and S1! It was planned for the 10 years of Quattro anniversary (!!according to AutoBild!!) They wanted to launch it this year on IAA, but rejected these plans…

So maybe this will never be build, or maybe in two to five years…