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Re: Audi RS4 Cabrio debuts in Geneva. - 03-01-2006, 03:46 AM

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Are you going to take pics?

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Of course, I packed my bag yesterday with my digitalcamera

I hope to get some nice shots among all the people.
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Re: Audi RS4 Cabrio debuts in Geneva. - 03-01-2006, 07:57 AM

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There is no way that is true. For example A6 3.2 quattro is faster than fwd 3.2 by 0.1 sec from 0-100 km/h since quattro offers more grip during acceleration.

It is true:

Audi A4 Cabriolet 3.0 5V (2003)
1580 kg 0-100 km/h 7.8 sec
Top speed: 234 km/h

Audi A4 Cabriolet 3.0 5V quattro (2003)
1720 kg
0-100 km/h 9.7 sec
Top speed: 238 km/h

Both cars are identical and have automatic transmission.
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Re: Audi RS4 Cabrio debuts in Geneva. - 03-01-2006, 08:01 AM

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It is 100% true:

Audi A4 Cabriolet 3.0 5V (2003)
1580 kg 0-100 km/h 7.8 sec

Audi A4 Cabriolet 3.0 5V quattro (2003)
1720 kg
0-100 km/h 9.7 sec

Both cars are identical and have automatic transmission.
I knew it. But i didn't know that a 140 kilos can make such big difference. Btw, 3.0 5V... 5V? 2003? I don't get this...5 cyl 3.0 engine from 2003...??? Is that what 5V means, klier?

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Re: Audi RS4 Cabrio debuts in Geneva. - 03-01-2006, 08:18 AM

6 cylinders in V form, 5 valves per cylinder, 2976 cubic centimeters, 220 hp

I am looking for this info on autoweek.nl (very reliable Dutch site with lots of 'first ever shots' etc, Im sure you know the site)
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Re: Audi RS4 Cabrio debuts in Geneva. - 03-01-2006, 08:19 AM

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6 cylinders in V form, 5 valves per cylinder, 2976 cubic centimeters, 220 hp
Yeah, that sounds more logical...Thanks!

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Re: Audi RS4 Cabrio debuts in Geneva. - 03-01-2006, 12:45 PM

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Audi A4 Cabriolet 3.0 5V quattro (2003)
1720 kg
0-100 km/h 9.7 sec
Send them an email to correct their numbers. I have done that several times.

2005 Audi A4 Cabriolet 3.2 FSI
0-100 km/h in 7.2 sec

2005 Audi A4 Cabriolet 3.2 FSI quattro
0-100 km/h in 6.8 sec

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Re: Audi RS4 Cabrio debuts in Geneva. - 03-01-2006, 02:35 PM

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Send them an email to correct their numbers. I have done that several times.

2005 Audi A4 Cabriolet 3.2 FSI
0-100 km/h in 7.2 sec

2005 Audi A4 Cabriolet 3.2 FSI quattro
0-100 km/h in 6.8 sec

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Dude, I couldn't care less about that 3.2 engine here. I am talking about a completely different car here, not some 2005 model. Read better please, I am talking about a specific model, not Audi's latest.
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Re: Audi RS4 Cabrio debuts in Geneva. - 03-01-2006, 02:42 PM

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Dude, I couldn't care less about that 3.2 engine here. I am talking about a completely different car here, not some 2005 model. Read better please, I am talking about a specific model, not Audi's latest.
I provided information about fwd and awd A4 cabrio with the same engine and the quattro is faster. I couldn't find info about the model you are talking about perhaps cause it's not sold anymore but it's impossible to have 2 secs difference.

A4 cabrio 1.8T quattro with 163 hp has 0-100 km/h in 9.5 sec, there is no way the 220 hp model will have 9.7 sec.
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Re: Audi RS4 Cabrio debuts in Geneva. - 03-01-2006, 02:43 PM

Auto motor und sport's Autokatalog for 2004 lists the time for the FWD 3.0 with manual transmission as 7.8 seconds (7.9 for quattro).
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Re: Audi RS4 Cabrio debuts in Geneva. - 03-01-2006, 05:15 PM

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I provided information about fwd and awd A4 cabrio with the same engine and the quattro is faster. I couldn't find info about the model you are talking about perhaps cause it's not sold anymore but it's impossible to have 2 secs difference.

A4 cabrio 1.8T quattro with 163 hp has 0-100 km/h in 9.5 sec, there is no way the 220 hp model will have 9.7 sec.
According to AoA, the front-drive Cabriolet is faster than the quattro.

I have an A4 Cabriolet 3.0 FrontTrak Multitronic. The official 0-60 time is 7.5 seconds. I clock around 6.9 seconds in my car after 3 years of engine break in. In contrast the A4 Cabriolet 3.0 quattro Tiptronic clocks in at 8.5 seconds; incidentally that's exactly what the 1.8T FrontTrak gets!

However the slower time is mostly due to the dreadful Tiptronic, which is over 100 pounds itself, and saps power to boot. The Tiptronic adds roughly 0.7 seconds to the 0-60 time, while the quattro's added weight (another 100 lbs) slows the car down another 0.3 seconds or so.

Also, remember that the Multironic transmission is considerably underestimated in official tests. The Multitronic, with its continuous, uninterrupted gear shifting, is faster than a manual, and much, much faster than a tiptronic. For example, the old FronTrak 3.0 Multitronic had a real world 0-60 time of 6.4 seconds even though AoA put it at over 7 seconds.

The real world 0-60 time of the new A4 3.2 FrontTrak Multitronic comes in at roughly 5.8 to 6.1 seconds. This is slightly better than the manual quattro version. The reason for the slower manual quattro time is due to the power loss during manual shifting, and the 100+ lbs added by quattro. Any advantages the quattro has in terms of eliminating wheel spin and torque steer are negated by the added weight.
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