Official Audi A4 Allroad quattro Thread

[martinbo]

Great first post and welcome to the forum, Viking 2000.

For Scandinavian countries and Northern US and Canadian climates, the A4 Allroad does have a tangible rationale behind it. I'm a huge fan of Subaru's Outback and it's exactly suited to the conditions you describe. And, despite being bigger engined, being more commodius and having two extra seats, the unremarkable Tribeca gets much less affection (zero) from me.

The Q5, however, is much closer to the A4 Allroad than the above; it has the same drivetrain, engines, number of seats, probably fuel tank capacity (lol - I don't know ), very similar emissions and is built on the same platform. Now, in my mind, that's what you call product overlap. Heck, does anyone know what this A4 Allroad weighs?

I'm looking for official figures for the A4 Allroad but let's assume it's identical to the A4 Avant quattro donor model. This means that, A4 Allroad vs. Q5, for a given 3.2 litre model, emissions are identical at 218 g/km, fuel consumption difference is negligible (9.2 l/100 pays 9.3) and pricing is similar as I expect the Allroad option to cost more than a regular Avant.

Interestingly, the A4 Allroad and Q5 will have nigh-identical drag co-efficients (0.32* vs 0.33) with only the frontal area being a significant differentiator in overall aerodynamic efficiency.

* Maybe even higher due to the raised suspension

Now tell me, how far apart are these two cars really?

[Edit: BTW, the Q5 has a 75 litre tank and the A4 Allroad a 64 litre tank - meaning you'll go further on "all roads" in your Q5. ]

[martinbo]

^ Of course it helps that I actually use an engine that will be offered in the A4 Allroad! Doh! No 3.2 litre petrol in the A4 Allroad...

LOL!

Anyhoo, you get the point nonetheless, using 2.0 TFSI engine we'll get to the same levels of comparison. My bad...

[DaSilva]

LOL everyones comment's in this thread is true, but all of you guys put to much into it...

Look at the Allroad as a "styling package" like "s-line"

Remember I sell these machines, I'll make this scenario:

Customer (C)
Salesperson (S)

C - Hello I want an Audi Avant for a small 2+2 family with quattro and
I want a special trim for it ? do you have anyting that suit my needs?
Btw I find Q5 both ugly and I don't want to sit THAT HIGH!
But I have a little house by the river where the last bit of tarmac down
to the house is in the summer full of mud and grawel while winter it's a
bit snowy I guess you could say. and the S-line trim would be to low..

S - Hello Sir. Welcome to us
Audi has just made a whole new Audi A4, its for the trendy
small families. I agree the Q5 feels quite big compared to the A4
even if they are based on the same platform.
And since you want a special trim for you're car I would go for the Allroad
styling pack - which is a bit higher than a normal A4 (oposite than the S-line) with a two tone color and with the package comes quattro...
So you can use it down to the river house without driving that
big SUV.

C - But this sounds expensive or ?

S - well if you want A4 (1p) with quattro (1p) - Avant (1p) and a styling
package (1p) will be (4p) in total.

While buying the A4 (1p) Allroad-pack(2p) it's more expensive compared adding one and one the "small" extras, but in total you will save
money. I guess you can put it this way
Allroad styling package = Styling,Avant,Quattro,Ridehight


I tried as good as I could but my english is poor but I do sell
cars last two days ago A4 Avant MLT

[Viking2000]

The price difference in Norway is 12 000 USD for he A4 Avant 2.0 TFSI Q and the Q5 with the same engine. I guess the difference between the A4 Allroad and Q5 will be around half of that. For 6000 USD you get som good extras like NAVI, keyless, leather and B&O sound. You also get a car that handles better onroad du to lower wight 150 kg (normal A4 Avant) and lower height. The emisson figures is 175 vs 197 i favor of the A4 Avant.

[siko]

Any chance of seeing this in NA?

[Mockenrue]

Not according to this article, no: U.S. will miss out on Audi A4 Allroad quattro - [2010 Audi A4 Allroad quattro] - MotorAuthority - Car news, reviews, spy shots

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[klier]

imo, very ugly. In white in particular. I'd MUCH rather have the Q5, then.

[siko]

Audi A4 allroad quattro in Depth
Press Release

The Audi A4 allroad quattro is right at home on any road or trail. With its permanent all-wheel drive and increased ground clearance, it offers driving pleasure even on unpaved surfaces. The Audi A4 allroad quattro also features all the technologies which impart superiority to the A4 model line: powerful and highly efficient engines, the vehicle-dynamics control system known as Audi drive select, the high-tech S tronic transmission, and innovative communication and assistance systems. Sales will begin in early summer, starting at 37,100 euros.

The Audi A4 allroad quattro: A car that knows no boundaries

A car that knows no boundaries: Audi is launching the A4 allroad quattro. With its quattro permanent all-wheel drive and increased ground clearance, this vehicle can handle any road or trail. Starting in early summer, the Audi A4 allroad quattro will be available with one of three powerful and energy-efficient engines, the high-tech S tronic transmission, and a broad range of assistance and communication systems. Its basic price will be 37,100 euros.

A relative of the A4 Avant, the A4 allroad quattro is a clever companion during everyday driving as well as for sports and leisure. The luggage compartment has a capacity of 490 liters (17.3 cubic feet), which extends up to 1,430 liters (50.5 cubic feet) when the split folding rear seat backs are fully folded down. A light touch triggers the standard load-area cover to retract upward. And the reversible loadliner's underside has been designed as a dirt-resistant tray. Audi offers optional extras such as a load-securing set and an electromechanical assembly for the tailgate.

The Audi A4 allroad quattro is somewhat larger than the A4 Avant. It measures 4.72 meters in length (15.49 ft) and 1.84 meters in width (6.04 ft). At a height of 1.50 meters (4.92 ft), it is taller than its A4 Avant sibling: ground clearance has risen to 180 millimeters (7.09 inches). A series of design flourishes underscores the vehicle's expressive nature and superiority on any road or trail. The fenders have become more flared; the wheel arches and the side sills bear vigorous insert strips; and underneath the front end and tail end, the vehicle has a solid stainless-steel underbody guard. 17-inch lightweight alloy wheels in 7-arm design are standard, and the roof is capped off by an offset rail.

Audi will initially offer three different powerful and highly efficient engines for the A4 allroad quattro: a gasoline engine and two diesel units. All three combine the technologies of direct fuel injection and turbocharging. The 2.0 TFSI delivers 155 kW (211 hp) and 350 Nm (258.15 lb-ft) of torque. The 3.0 TDI produces 176 kW (240 hp), which enables a sprint to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in 6.4 seconds.

The 2.0 TDI with manual shifting provides 125 kW (170 hp), yet requires just 6.4 liters of fuel per 100 km (36.75 U.S. mpg). This is partially due to the synergetic impact of new efficiency technologies by Audi: an energy-recovery system, a start-stop system, and an on-board computer with efficiency program - all standard as of summer 2009.

Whereas the 2.0 TDI links to a six-speed manual transmission, the 2.0 TFSI and the 3.0 TDI can transmit power to Audi's optional, innovative dual-clutch transmission. The S tronic operates very efficiently, switching extremely smoothly among its seven gears at lightning speed. The driver can shift manually or allow this transmission to shift automatically.

Standard: The quattro permanent all-wheel drive system

The quattro permanent all-wheel drive system is also standard equipment in Audi's latest model. It slightly favors the rear, distributing power for sporty handling similar to that of the A4 Avant. The finely balanced distribution of the axle loads and the high-tech chassis play key roles in this regard.

In rough terrain, the Audi A4 allroad quattro relies on a cutting-edge feature: Offroad Detection technology identifies the type of driving surface and accordingly adjusts the control parameters of the electronic stabilization program (ESP). The optional vehicle-dynamics control system known as Audi drive select enables dynamic road handling. The system is paired with Audi dynamic steering, which varies the steering ratio in a continuously variable manner - more directly at low speeds and more indirectly at high speeds.

A wide range of optional assistance systems straight from the luxury class will appeal to customers who set great store by convenience. Audi lane assist helps the driver to remain in a given lane and Audi side assist makes it safer to change lanes. Adaptive cruise control is a radar-assisted cruise-control system which detects vehicles ahead and maintains the proper following distance by accelerating and braking automatically. In dangerous situations, this system alerts the driver via one of two alarms.

There are also appealing multimedia options for this vehicle, from the innovative, high-tech MMI navigation plus system to the Bang & Olufsen sound system. The Audi A4 allroad quattro will be available at dealerships early this summer at a basic price of 37,100 euros.

At a glance

Engines

• Two powerful and highly efficient TDI units and one TFSI engine, output of 125 kW (170 hp) to 176 kW (240 hp)
• Start-stop system and energy-recovery system for the 2.0 TDI and 2.0 TFSI as of summer 2009

Driveline

• S tronic dual-clutch transmission optional on the 2.0 TFSI and 3.0 TDI
• quattro all-wheel drive standard with all engine versions

Chassis

• Elaborate five-link front suspension and trapezoidal-link rear suspension, consisting largely of aluminum
• Wider track, standard 17-inch wheels, large wheel brakes
• Audi drive select (vehicle-dynamics control system) with Audi dynamic steering optional
• Increased ground clearance and ESP with Offroad Detection increase propulsive power on loose surfaces

Body and design

• Plenty of available space and considerable everyday practicality; luggage compartment holds between 490 liters (17.3 cubic feet) and 1,430 liter (50.5 cubic feet)
• Numerous practical details for leisure activities and transporting objects
• Striking design flourishes such as flared fenders and stainless-steel front and rear underbody guard

Equipment

• Generous standard-equipment package, including a deluxe load-area cover
• Optional assistance systems and multimedia components straight from the luxury class

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Engines/Drivetrain (Page 4)
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[Source: Audi via WCF]