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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Edmunds Inside Line - 2009 BMW 750i Long-Term Test ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Introduction Basically, what we do here at Inside Line after the powerslides, of course is give advice. We drive and evaluate hundreds of cars each year and funnel our condensed experience and expertise to anyone who will stand still long enough to listen. We're huge hits at parties. Trouble is, advice is easier to give than receive. For years now, we've been advising friends and family alike to forgo their gas-guzzling, overweight SUVs for large sedans or wagons, even as we've added SUV after SUV to the Inside Line fleet of long-term test cars. And it almost happened again. When our long-term 2008 BMW X5 finished its tour of duty (and with our evaluations of a 2002 BMW M3 and 2008 BMW 135i due to wrap up shortly), we wanted to replace it with another BMW. Maybe a BMW with the all-new, twin-turbo, 400-horsepower 4.4-liter V8 and the fully revised iDrive control system? And so a 2009 BMW X6 5.0i seemed to be screaming our name. The twin-turbo X6 would certainly have made a fine road-trip toy, and would make for interesting comparisons of utility (or uselessness, take your pick) with our Infiniti FX50. But it was time to take our own advice. Instead of replacing our luxury SUV with a less useful version of essentially the same thing, we chose BMW's newest version of its flagship luxury sedan, the 2009 BMW 750i. What We Got While a V12-powered 760 is most likely in the works, the U.S.-spec 2009 7 Series (F01 is BMW's internal engineering code for the car) is currently available only with a twin-turbo 4.4-liter V8 and six-speed automatic transmission. This new engine effectively matches the performance of the V12 in the previous-generation 760Li, yet is less expensive and more environmentally friendly. The all-new power plant is rated at 400 hp at 5,500 rpm and 450 pound-feet of torque at only 1,800 rpm. The EPA rates this drivetrain at 22 mpg highway, which is kind of impressive. Of course, if you stand on it, the speedometer needle will sweep to 60 mph in just over 5 seconds without a whir, buzz or roar, pressing you deep into the backrest of the massive, thronelike seats. It's then you're thankful that this big car has appropriately superb brakes attached to 19-inch wheels which are wrapped in turn by surprisingly sticky Michelin Excellence tires 245/40R19s in front and 275/40R19s in the back. Together it's a combination that hauls the behemoth down from 60 mph in only 112 feet. Kind of impressive when you remember that the 2009 BMW 750i weighs 4,599 pounds. iDrive has previously turned even the most tech-savvy automotive journalist into a version of cranky old television commentator Andy Rooney. Frustration with this all-singing, all-dancing control interface for a BMW's entertainment, navigation, ventilation and mechanical calibration has produced countless rants urging a return to paper maps and suspension settings that can be changed only with a toolbox. Thankfully BMW got the message (finally). The F01 7 Series also sports a fully retooled iDrive system that includes not just new shortcut buttons to back up the rotary controller plus a large 10.2-inch screen, but also new, more logical software. You can't evaluate such a system in a day, though, so a long-term experience to find its assets and liabilities clearly seemed in order. The twin-turbo 4.4-liter V8 is standard equipment for the new 2009 BMW 750i. It's a whole lot of motor, so it's only right that to keep it on the road we chose the Sport package ($4,900) which adds 19-inch wheels, active roll stabilization and a sport steering wheel (really, have you ever seen a BMW that didn't have the Sport package?). Other options on our new long-termer include a Luxury Seating package ($2,500), satellite radio ($595) and a nifty Camera package ($750) that shows rearview and front sideview monitors for avoiding those tricky curbs that will leap up and bite your fancy sport wheels if you're not careful. Do the math and all this works out to a lofty total yet not far from the norm in this class of $89,870. Why We Got It Although we knew that the time was right for us to stray from the usual lifestyle SUV, it's still not an easy emotional decision. What if we need that third row of seats? Or the cargo hatch? Or the extra ground clearance? Or all-wheel drive? A spoonful of sugar, they say, helps the medicine go down. And, well, at almost $90,000 BMW's new flagship is one helluva helping of sugar. The new forced-induction V8 represents another step in BMW's evolution toward slightly more responsible performance. It's a direction the company is taking seriously, as it's considering reducing engine displacement across the whole range of models even in the M division cars and further replacing normally aspirated engines with smaller-displacement turbocharged ones. Maybe there is a replacement for displacement after all. At the same time, the forced-induction engine in our long-term 2008 BMW 135i has received mixed reviews during its time with us. While no one doubts the power, its soul and presence is in question, as is its real-world fuel economy. As far as the 7 Series is concerned, a luxury sedan is all about presence, so we wonder whether this turbocharged V8 can fill the spiritual gap left by a similarly powerful V12? Full Story: Edmunds Inside Line - 2009 BMW 750i Long-Term Test Moderator, can we make this a sticky since this test is likely to go on for a year? Should be interesting to see. I will try to update it when updates are posted, but of course anyone can update it when Edmunds posts one. M
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![]() | Those first two shots are amazing. Interesting to see what they think of the 7er in this long term test...
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![]() ![]() ![]() | There is something about the profile that is just so striking. It's almost chariot like with that long hood and swept back windscreen. This is a lot of dough for Edmunds to plop down. This has to be the most expensive Long-Term car they have ever purchased. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Update: 2009 BMW 750i: When You Get Tired of Santa Fe, Try U.S. Highway 84 ![]() My Arizona-New Mexico road trip in our long-term 2009 BMW 750i spanned about 1,900 miles in 48 hours. I'm tired now. More entries are coming tomorrow on fuel economy (over 20 mpg) and the car's adaptive bi-xenon headlights (as used on a very dark road). Right now I want to tell you about U.S. Highways 84 and 64 between Espanola and Bloomfield, New Mexico. These roads are off the beaten path, but if you're already in New Mexico, the combination of the roads themselves and the scenery along them is pretty enjoyable. Most of the turns are of the fast, sweeping variety, so these aren't the best back roads for a Miata. Still, there's just enough challenge to make you glad you picked something fun to drive rather than renting a Toyota Avalon (I've never seen so many in a 70-mile stretch). And our BMW 750i is fun. It feels smaller and lighter than the previous-generation 7 Series even if it isn't in actuality. The steering is excellent -- just the right weighting and I can easily get a read on how well the 245/45R19 98Y Goodyear Excellence "grand touring summer" run-flat front tires are gripping. The big sedan also has amazing body control, and although the pavement was pretty rough in spots (no potholes, though), it never got unsettled mid-corner and it was easy to settle into a rhythm -- so much so that I didn't lose much time with my back-roads detour. This car is quick wherever it goes. I look forward to doing this again. Real soon. Erin Riches, Senior Editor @ 5,850 miles (as of about 11:30 p.m. MDT, 4/1/09) ![]() Update: 2009 BMW 750i: When You Get Tired of Santa Fe, Try U.S. Highway 84 I just love the real-life, stormy looking pics. M
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