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Old 10-25-2008, 02:59 PM   #11
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Re: Car and Driver - 2009 BMW 750i / 750Li - Second Drive

(Models that won’t be sold in the U.S.—at least not initially—are the 740i/740Li with a more powerful, 322-hp version of the twin-turbo 3.0-liter six and the 730d with its new 241-hp, 3.0-liter diesel.)




Interesting engine choices.. 322hp from a 3.0liter is impressive.
The 730d also sounds good but I read in the October Issue of Road@Track that BMW is introducing a 265hp with a monster 425lb-ft torque rating bi-turbo 6-cylinder diesel in the 3-series. The 7er should get this engine as well.

It`s really looking like the 760Li is dead. It`s not even available in europe
from this article. BMW is pulled the plug on it.
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:49 PM   #12
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Re: Car and Driver - 2009 BMW 750i / 750Li - Second Drive

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It`s really looking like the 760Li is dead. It`s not even available in europe
from this article. BMW is pulled the plug on it.
Last 760i didnt come from the start either, it took some time so give the new 760i some time as well. 760i wont be their biggest seller, thats the 750i so there are no rush with a V12 just yet.
There is talk about a 760i getting V12 twinturbo with 544hp/800nm.

730i 3.0 R6 210kW/286PS 400Nm Twin Turbo
740i 3.0 R6 240kW/326PS 450Nm Twin Turbo
750i 4.4 V8 300kW/407PS 600Nm Twin Turbo
760i 6.0 V12 400kW/544PS 800Nm Twin Turbo

730d 3.0 R6 180kW/245PS 540Nm Turbo
735d 3.0 R6 220kW/299PS 600Nm Twin Turbo
745d 3.0 R6 260kW/354PS 700Nm Tri Turbo
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Re: Car and Driver - 2009 BMW 750i / 750Li - Second Drive

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Interesting engine choices.. 322hp from a 3.0liter is impressive.
The 730d also sounds good but I read in the October Issue of Road@Track that BMW is introducing a 265hp with a monster 425lb-ft torque rating bi-turbo 6-cylinder diesel in the 3-series. The 7er should get this engine as well.

It`s really looking like the 760Li is dead. It`s not even available in europe
from this article. BMW is pulled the plug on it.

7er will not get (or rather, did not get. Maybe in the future) the 3.0 TT diesel because buyers are quite satisfied with the regular 3.0 single turbo 245 hp diesel.

760i/Li with twin turbo V12 and around 540 hp will arrive somewhere in 2009. On the spy pics you will recognise it because of the quad tailpipes. I've looked for ages but I finally found a pic of it, it's even made by Cawimmer right in the heart of Munich. Looking for so long was worth it though, because you seem to always say there will not be a new V12 7er....it's like you're hoping it or something....

Anyways, the F02 V12 760Li with quad pipes:


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Indeed it is a V12 7er. And not just any V12 7er prototype , That car is being driven by someone special indeed within BMW. Just dont resort to Paparazzi or stalker mode. And remember to leave the night vision goggles at home.
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Re: Car and Driver - 2009 BMW 750i / 750Li - Second Drive

  • So where are you guys getting this info..
  • BMW sure is being a bit quiet about the 760. If indeed BMW revives it with those numbers thats really going to be crazy fast,
If the HP wars are over at AMG (and M) thay indeed pick up in the normal models.
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  • So where are you guys getting this info..
My eyes basicly. What do you think those quad pipes are for? For fun?

And the 760 will be the top version 7er. No M version is planned. So Mercedes has more hp with the S65....BMW isn't racing them, and the car will not be as crazy fast as the S65
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Re: Car and Driver - 2009 BMW 750i / 750Li - Second Drive

lOl, I almost like the ones` on the 750i better. Anyways I`m glad the 760 will make a come back!

This will keep MB on their toes for sure!
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My eyes basicly. What do you think those quad pipes are for? For fun?

And the 760 will be the top version 7er. No M version is planned. So Mercedes has more hp with the S65....BMW isn't racing them, and the car will not be as crazy fast as the S65

Yes but what about the regular models from MB... 600hp S600??
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Re: Car and Driver - 2009 BMW 750i / 750Li - Second Drive

I don't know, put some things like brake energy regeneration and other fuel saving tech on it, increase the boost pressure a bit, maybe bore out the engine a bit (it's 'only' 5,5 liter, for a V12. The BMW already has a 6.0) and you make 550 instead of 517 hp and save maybe even on fuel....
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Yes but what about the regular models from MB... 600hp S600??
544hp/800 nm is more than enough. You dont have to be the most powerful. Besides MB have always had the strongest engines so what else is new.
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