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EnI · 06-04-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mercedes

Not at all bespoke like the current 7.

No.

Expect even more upscale & luxurious variant of X6 cabin design. And more sedanish & driver oriented layout. More sporty luxury.

Bespoke & special interior ... new 8er (project Gran Turismo), new Z8, "super-coupe".

F01: both exterior & interior design will be unified with the rest of BMW model line design. Finally integrated into the BMW family. Back to the past.

dr Dunkel · 06-04-2008, 04:16 PM

As planned then. The 7-series is no longer the range-topper and hence it has to be less extravagant. Not saying that it will not match the S-class in many ways but lets guess that all the really special bits will be saved for the 8-series. Or?

Pekka · 06-04-2008, 04:59 PM

>> Click << for F01 / 02 - related tech news @ Sueddeutsche Zeitung

SKYSONY · 06-04-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pekka

>> Click << for F01 / 02 - related tech news @ Sueddeutsche Zeitung

Can´t stand any word mate.

jack · 06-04-2008, 05:09 PM

short translation:
the reporter is driving in a 5 series prototype which is equiped with the next generation of night vision technologie, which bmw wants to introduce with the new 7series
this new night vision system is able to recotize pedastrians in a range of 100m - a yellow symbol will signal its discover - this is possible, because they use thermo camera technology as assistance
further on a new camera system(situated behind the rear mirror), is able to "read" about 70 prozent of all traffic signs - sadly it doesn't work on us roads, because their signs aren't standardized. this new feature is only displaying the signs, but not regulating speed on its own

Pekka · 06-04-2008, 05:17 PM

Thx jack ... forgot to mention that it is written in German

Try >> this << link. Hope it helps (you'll have something to laugh).

SKYSONY · 06-04-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EnI

Expect from Audi to push the new A8 in even further into luxury waters. IMO shortly exceeding instant luxury experience of 7er. Yet 7er will have deeper character - as BMW cars always do. And do not forget a new flagship is coming, and the Silver Ghost from RR as well. So, the line from 7er, new Z8, to 8er 4dr GT, and further to baby Rolls have to be very clean & precise. Without gray areas.

I'm sure when Porsche cuts even deeper in VAG guts the results will be seen sooner or later: presenting more focused products, and less cannibalizing within the Group. Right now some models of certain brands (or even within the same brand) are positioned to closely together.

But ... S-class still has THE image in this segment, but I'm afraid that's all what will left to S-class.

A8 ... double-attack: on new 7er's agility & sportiness, and S-class' comfort & luxury experience.

The insiders say Audi is putting enormous resources in this car ... Since they are determined to be #1 luxury brand - image & experience wise (not necessary sales wise). With all the VAG & PAG support, they have great chances to succeed. Yet neither BMW nor MB are not standing still. But ... will that be enough?

****

BMW are aware they can't win this race ... therefore all the resources are directed into EfficientDynamics: to position BMW as the greenest & cleanest, and most dynamic brand (cars as well) among luxury brands.

Btw, my birdies say (rumors from suppliers) the new A8 will be a bit too aggressive (completely overdone) in appearence for the large luxury sedan segment. Some say Audi may make a step too far. Like BMW did with E65: stirring the automotive world completely.

I'm very eager to see that car.

Haven´t seen this interesting post (as all EnI´s ones). I really think that a premium car like the 7er, A8 and S-Class needs is an agressive look. Not a tank one, but a sportier one.

Do you imagine an A8 having the overall appearence of an A5?. That will be stunning, and people will fall in love with LEDs lights, agresive look, and the refinement and the luxury of such a car.

If a car of this segment mixes the luxury of Mercedes and the sportines of BMW, will clearly win the race, that´s for sure.

The Artist · 06-04-2008, 06:43 PM

winning the race to me, is selling most cars..
and maybe a small ammount goes into winning comparisons..
so far the S class has done that through out history..
and i dont think it will fade out..
on the other hand... i welcome competition..
it will only make MB even better at the game they invented

klier · 06-04-2008, 06:46 PM

So from your point of view, BMW is winning the race; they sell the most cars...with less on offer.

The Artist · 06-04-2008, 06:53 PM

^for sure.. no doubt..
for now BMW is the king of german brands..
doesent mean i like them the most..
but thats hard facts..

on the other hand..something that really interests me when it comes to brands is profit..
i think it might be a better way to meassure..

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