[Merc1]

On the one hand I feel that if BMW can make a M car out of this X6 SUV thingy then they can make one out of the next 7-Series. Then again if this CS/8-Series comes to production, it would be a far more suitable canidate for M treatment, so I agree with Eni here.

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[The Artist]

Ohh and i just want to say.. my harsh comments in this thread is beacuse i desperetly wants to see an M7... i belive it would be great..
so thats why im so engaged in the topic

[SDNR]

Originally Posted by The Artist

my excuse is the current modell is not attractive enough??

It has probably got more to do with the technical aspects concerning its size, rigidity, etc.

If there is going to be a M7, it will be when BMW offer an all-aluminium bodied platform able to meet the performance demands of a true M car.

Originally Posted by Just_me

MB made a AMG version out of R-class and that cars is a shame to all benzes, butt ugly car
and you think 6er is an ugly car buy hey guess what, BMw built M version of that car.

AMG and M power are fundamentally different. As I said earlier, AMG is not a true race-bred division, it is mostly about the prestige of awesome power.

[RICHBOY]

I won't say that BMW needs a M7 because they don't, but as a car enthusiast I'd love to see it return. I'm not sure if this is the case, but I believe Mercedes is trying to make the public believe there greater then BMW and Audi by offering the S65 AMG. Neither BMW or Audi has a luxury sedan that can compete with that kinda power, so it's pinned against Bentley's Flying Spur. I think if BMW and Audi don't offer a competitive model to combat the S65 AMG the public will start to believe that Mercedes luxury sedans are more special across the whole model range then BMW's 7-Series and Audi's A/S8! It's not good for BMW or Audi when Mercedes is compared to Bentley imho.

[The Artist]

ehhmm excuse me.. S65??
dont even go there..
audi and BMW can focus on making a S63 competitor to start with
and then make a V12´s that match the Aged 600 V12

65 is out of range

[RICHBOY]

Originally Posted by The Artist

ehhmm excuse me.. S65??
dont even go there..
audi and BMW can focus on making a S63 competitor to start with
and then make a V12´s that match the Aged 600 V12

65 is out of range

What are you trying to say, BMW isn't capable of creating a engine that can match that of the S65's?

[SDNR]

^^Artist, why do you think the S65 is so untouchable? -- did you forget about the Veyron's W16 -- imagine that in an A8

Also, don't forget BMW's V16 it used in the Rolls-Royce 100EX concept (although it probably wouldn't fit in a 7er)

[The Artist]

lol no.. im saying that one should start at the bottom make their way up
whats the point of a V12 powerd supersedan..when you dont have a competitor for the S63.. heck they dont even have one for the S8..

So imo audis next S8 should have 500+hp and the RS8 should be the S65 beater
when it comes to BMW.. i would just be happy if they made a M7 to go against the S63.. that would be enough.. thats atleast a start

PS
And the V12´s UPDATE please.. the S600 has 517hp and its dead old
the 760 has 445hp while the W12 audi has 450hp...
and keep in mind the S600 was bearly updated for the W221.. it had 500hp in the W220..

[The Artist]

okay you guys got it wrong...im sure they can build 1600hp W18s if they want to..
but thats not the point..
one does not make a M5 first and the 520 last.. its the other way around..
do you guys understand my point?

[RICHBOY]

Originally Posted by The Artist

lol no.. im saying that one should start at the bottom make their way up
whats the point of a V12 powerd supersedan..when you dont have a competitor for the S63.. heck they dont even have one for the S8..

So imo audis next S8 should have 500+hp and the RS8 should be the S65 beater
when it comes to BMW.. i would just be happy if they made a M7 to go against the S63.. that would be enough.. thats atleast a start

PS
And the V12´s UPDATE please.. the S600 has 517hp and its dead old
the 760 has 445hp while the W12 audi has 450hp...
and keep in mind the S600 was bearly updated for the W221.. it had 500hp in the W220..

I disagree totally Artist! Why would BMW or Audi offer a engine to compete with each of the S-Class engines, isn't there 3 engines with more then 500hp? That's retarded on Mercedes part if you ask me! BMW just needs one chart topping engine for the M7 which is competitive with the S65 AMG, maybe around 575hp. That should be more then enough for BMW's M to take down the S65 imo!