Logic? We don't need no stinking logic.

Guys, you can throw reason and logic to the wind when you are discussing these types of cars. IMO, it is illogical to discuss off-road capability in an ML whether it is a 350, 500, or 63. I have been selling MB since 98 and I can count on one hand the number of my clients who ever had any interest in taking an ML off-road. And that was considering the much more off-road ready body on frame chasis. i already have a number of people who are ready to buy the ML63, and they have either owned a Cayenne Turbo or have considered one. This vehicle will be a steal comparitively. The Cayenne Turbo is a rip off price wise.